Thoughts on binding problem?

[Puck it]

I have a pair of Icelantic Nomads with LD12 Railflexes mounted. I have been releasing from the skis when coming to a fast stop on hard powder , spring corn(got a pretty good corn rash last spring from this one) and even powder. The bindings are set to the proper sole length. The forward was set the same as my Recons which have LD12's also. I brought them to the local shop and they backed off on the forward pressure thinking it was too much preload. I am going to bring them in for testing at the shop this fall. The Recons do not have this problem.

Any thoughts or suggestions?

 

[wa-loaf]

Any cracks in them?

 

[Puck it]

Nothing visible that I can see.

 

[wa-loaf]

Get them tested. Maybe the springs are bad. You might be able to have them replaced if not too old.

 

[Trekchick]

You may want a higher din biding on a ski with that width (140/105/130).
When you get into the wider skis, the amount of torque(for lack of a better word) you put on the binding to get it on edge may be adding extra force that you're not used to on an average ski width.

In fact, this is a quote from me on Ski Diva:
keep in mind that a higher DIN binding is about a lot more than just the DIN. It will have a better housing. The better housing will have more lateral stiffness, and give you more control when getting up on edge, particularly with a wider ski.

 

[Puck it]

I agree with the spring theory. The local shop is going to test them for me and determine if there is some defect. They are only a year old so they should be covered by Tyrolia. Trekchick has a good point, I was thinking that added height of the railflex and the ski width is putting some lateral force on the binding that it is thinking is bad force and causing the release. This only happens when stopping not carving a turn. The DIN is set to 9.5.

 

[tjf67]

Make sure the binding is not to far apart. That would make a difference.
If that is OK. Keep turning the screw half a turn until they dont pop off. Do go to far to fast or you will get yourself hurt.

 

[Puck it]

Binding is set to the proper length and the DIN is 9.5

 

[wa-loaf]

You just need a pair of these:
http://www.skis.com/product/113787/Marker+Comp+20.0+EPS+Ski+Bindings+-+Adult+

Crank them up to 20 and no worries about release.

 

[prisnah]

Just buy look/rossi/dynastar next time and you won't have an issue.

Seriously, it is most likely a spring issue or like trekchick said, due to the width of the skis....makes a hudge difference.

 

[Puck it]

I always buy Tyrolia. I have for years. All of my currents skis have them. This is the only one with problems.

 

[bigbog]

Get those tested....

Somethin's definitely not happenning! Agreed, along with everything else ...DIN sounds a little low...there's a lot of torque happennin' with rails + ski-width.

 

[Geoff]

I agree with the spring theory.

I haven't been on Tyrolia in a very long time but the old ones had separate springs in the heel for forward pressure. It might be that the release spring is just fine but you're not getting enough forward pressure and end up walking out of the toe when you unflex the ski because the heel doesn't snap forward quickly enough. You might also have some goo or a burr on the heel unit that is preventing it from sliding on the track correctly. They might just need cleaning and lubrication.

If it's happening equally on both skis, I don't have a clue. The failure modes I'm suggesting are unlikely to happen to both heel units.

There's always duct tape.

 

[Hawkshot99]

Make sure the binding is not to far apart. That would make a difference.
If that is OK. Keep turning the screw half a turn until they dont pop off. Do go to far to fast or you will get yourself hurt.

That is just asking for trouble. Obviosly there is something wrong. Fix it, dont just put a band aid on it.

 

[Hawkshot99]

Just buy look/rossi/dynastar next time and you won't have an issue.

Agreed, or anything but Tyrolia.......

 

[RootDKJ]

The Railflex slides off the "mount" pretty easily. Couldn't you switch the bindings with your other skiis, see if the same problem occurs? This should rule out something.

 

[Puck it]

The Railflex slides off the "mount" pretty easily. Couldn't you switch the bindings with your other skiis, see if the same problem occurs? This should rule out something.

Yes, I am going to try that if the ski shop does not find anything wrong with them.

 

[tekweezle]

let us know what the final resolution of this issue is.

I have been running the Tyrolia Railflex LD12 on a 80 mm waist ski and haven;t had any issues with releases. I do plenty of hockey style stops, especially when I dump snow on my fallen ski partners!

interesting enough, i am looking to get a pair of icelantic skis with the Tyrolia railflex plate some time in the future. I hope they are not incompatible.

 

[Puck it]

I will let everyone as soon as I know. This does make a little apprehensive on these skis.