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Vermont Senate Passes Ski Area Bailout

Jcb890

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I don't have the #'s, but didn't CO make so much in taxes that they actually paid people back money from it?
 

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Yeah, except anyone who goes to the hospital because they're too high on pot is just a jackass. Wait it out and eat less next time ("overdoses" are almost always from edibles, and there is no such thing as a fatal overdose)

My first experience with edibles was many years ago on a night time train ride from Amsterdam to Paris when I was in college. Chopped a gram of black hash into some spaghetti. Definitely overdid it a bit but the worst thing that happened to me was that I filled out a French crossword in English. And I didn't sleep a wink. But walking through a fairly empty Paris at 6am the next morning was pretty cool.
 

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Some real medical research would be nice. I just can't see how long term usage would not have an adverse affect on a person.

If people want to partake in private, I have no issue. As pain medicine, probably a lot better than opioids.
 

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I don't find much of a pain relief effect. The big medical benefits in my opinion is as an appetite stimulant for chemo/aids patients, and as a dream suppressant for ptsd. my dreams are fucky if I don't smoke. If I had been to war and seen some shit, I'd surely like to quiet my brain at night to sleep. Overall tho, I think medical is a Trojan horse and we'd be better served to stop the California bullshit and go full bore towards rec legal. Tea and herbal remedies have medical properties, but you don't need a prescription to buy earl grey and ginseng
 

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I wouldn't worry too hard about any of them winning. It's like watching a slow motion train wreck.

Current polling suggests three of the four Republican challengers would defeat Clinton, the only Republican who Clinton defeats is the one who's leading.
 

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Bernie or Nothing will change. Trump made his money from his family. His parents ran getto trump apartments in Brooklyn back in day my mom lived their

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Marxism is not the answer for a Constitutional Republic. There's a reason this country is exceptional, even in difficult times, and that ain't it.

As an independent voter I observe that GOP participation is up 30% vs 2008 and Dem participation is down by the same amount. I'm personally not concerned about a Democrat winning. I'm only concerned that Trump will be the GOP ticket.

Waiting for Cruz and Rubio to team up.
 

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I'd like to remind folks that we have no politics rule on AZ.

Let's keep on subject. No one cares who others are voting for
 

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https://medicalmarijuana411.com/wat...&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=socialnetworkSince 1974 studies have shown that cannabis has anti-tumor effects. The results of the 1974 study, reported in an Aug. 18, 1974, Washington Post newspaper feature, were that cannabis’s component, THC, “slowed the growth of lung cancers, breast cancers and a virus-induced leukemia in laboratory mice, and prolonged their lives by as much as 36 percent.” In 1975 an article in the Journal of the National cancer institute titled “Antineoplastic Activity of Cannabinoids,” they reported that

Lewis lung adenocarcinoma growth was retarded by the oral administrati
Some interest has arisen from a conversation of mine with a stimulating individual on the subject of cannibus, himp, marijuana, or simply weed, and so I wish to summerize my report for ease of reading.

For most of human history, marijuana has been completely legal. It’s not a recently discovered plant, nor is it a long-standing law.

Marijuana is illegal do to Racism, Fear Protection of Corporate Profits, Yellow Journalism, Ignorant, Incompetent, and/or Corrupt Legislators, Personal Career Advancement and Greed. The way it was done was with secret hearings, and word play as well as manipulation of medical studies. The AMA had made a report that had nothing to do with himp, yet Harry Anslinger, not Al something as I told my friend, attempted to make it appear that the American Medical Association was behind Anslinger. However, Dr. William C. Woodard, Legislative Council of the AMA, Cleared up the confusion yet to no avail. The wording used by the bureau was using the term marijuana in the legislation and not publicizing it as a bill about cannabis or hemp. At this point, marijuana (or marihuana) was a sensationalist word used to refer to Mexicans smoking a drug and had not been connected in most people’s minds to the existing cannabis/hemp plant. Thus, many who had legitimate reasons to oppose the bill weren’t even aware of it.

The main people resonsible for the illeagalization of himp are: William Randolph Hearst and Harry J. Anslinger.

Anslinger was an extremely ambitious man, and he recognized the Bureau of Narcotics as an amazing career opportunity. He immediately realized that opiates and cocaine wouldn’t be enough to help build his agency, so he latched on to marijuana and started to work on making it illegal at the federal level. Anslinger immediately drew upon the themes of racism and violence to draw national attention to the problem he wanted to create. He also used the Newspaper printed by Randolph to spew things like:

“There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos, and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz, and swing, result from marijuana use."

"This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers, and any others."

"Marijuana is an addictive drug which produces in its users insanity, criminality, and death."

"You smoke a joint and you’re likely to kill your brother."

"Reefer makes darkies think they’re as good as white men.”

William Randolf Hearst owner of a huge chain of newspapers had lots of reasons to help. First, he hated Mexicans. Second, he had invested heavily in the timber industry and didn’t want to see the development of hemp paper. Third, he had lost 800,000 acres of timberland to Pancho Villa, a reason why he hated Mexicans.

Some examples from the San Francisco Examiner, the paper owned by Hearst are:

“By the tons it is coming into this country — the deadly, dreadful poison that racks and tears not only the body, but the very heart and soul of every human being who once becomes a slave to it in any of its cruel and devastating forms…. Marihuana is a short cut to the insane asylum. Smoke marihuana cigarettes for a month and what was once your brain will be nothing but a storehouse of horrid specters. Hasheesh makes a murderer who kills for the love of killing out of the mildest mannered man who ever laughed at the idea that any habit could ever get him….”

“Marihuana makes fiends of boys in thirty days — Hashish goads users to bloodlust.”

And other nationwide columns…

“Users of marijuana become STIMULATED as they inhale the drug and are LIKELY TO DO ANYTHING. Most crimes of violence in this section, especially in country districts are laid to users of that drug.”

“Was it marijuana, the new Mexican drug, that nerved the murderous arm of Clara Phillips when she hammered out her victim’s life in Los Angeles?… THREE-FOURTHS OF THE CRIMES of violence in this country today are committed by DOPE SLAVES — that is a matter of cold record.” (Which Is untrue according to AMA)

“Marihuana influences Negroes to look at white people in the eye, step on white men’s shadows and look at a white woman twice.”

Hearst and Anslinger were then supported by Dupont chemical company and various pharmaceutical companies in the effort to outlaw cannabis. Dupont had patented nylon, and wanted hemp removed as competition. The pharmaceutical companies could neither identify nor standardize cannabis dosages, and besides, with cannabis, folks could grow their own medicine and not have to purchase it from large companies.

And that was basically it. Yellow journalism won over medical science.

The committee passed the legislation on. And on the floor of the house, the entire discussion was:

Member from upstate New York: “Mr. Speaker, what is this bill about?”

Speaker Rayburn: “I don’t know. It has something to do with a thing called marihuana. I think it’s a narcotic of some kind.”

“Mr. Speaker, does the American Medical Association support this bill?”

Member on the committee jumps up and says: “Their Doctor Wentworth[sic] came down here. They support this bill 100 percent.”

And on the basis of that lie, on August 2, 1937, marijuana became illegal at the federal level.

The entire coverage in the New York Times: “President Roosevelt signed today a bill to curb traffic in the narcotic, marihuana, through heavy taxes on transactions.”
 
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Great post, indeed. A law borne of ignorance and bigotry. Awesome. Explains a lot.
 

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my dreams are fucky if I don't smoke

from what I "hear", this is a problem (or benefit in your case), chronic use suppresses REM sleep and if you stop, the REM sleep comes back in a fury.

I know of someone who quit and it took 6+months for their sleeping to get back near normal, until then they were waking up every 20 - 40 minutes all night, every night. Dream, wake up, go back to sleep, Dream, wake up.. all night for six months. It's exhausting.
 

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*Edd sticks head in sand and prays Trump wins the nomination*

You should. There's a reason both the DNC and the media are trying to nudge him over the finish line.



So I see that whole, caring about "non-biased sources" thing works in unidirectional fashion!

from what I "hear", this is a problem (or benefit in your case), chronic use suppresses REM sleep and if you stop, the REM sleep comes back in a fury.

I know of someone who quit and it took 6+months for their sleeping to get back near normal, until then they were waking up every 20 - 40 minutes all night, every night. Dream, wake up, go back to sleep, Dream, wake up.. all night for six months. It's exhausting.

Well, if you want to put a sliver of a silver lining on things, a lot of the pot research concludes that many of the harmful effects can be reversed or at least diminished from peak harm if you quit. Though how many people honestly quit? Most of my friends "grew out of it" so to speak, but the ones who didn't use it often. I don't think they'll ever quit.
 

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And you continue to slam MJ while ignoring the fact that Alcohol is far more of a problem in society.

Are you consistent in thinking alcohol legality should be a state decision as well?

Somehow I doubt it


And you are completely ignorant if you don't get the racism behind MJ prohibition.
 

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from what I "hear" chronic use suppresses REM sleep and if you stop, the REM sleep comes back in a fury.

I know of someone who quit and it took 6+months for their sleeping to get back near normal, until then they were waking up every 20 - 40 minutes all night, every night. Dream, wake up, go back to sleep, Dream, wake up.. all night for six months. It's exhausting.

Yup! :cool:
 

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And you continue to slam MJ while ignoring the fact that Alcohol is far more of a problem in society.

Actually, point of fact, I never addressed alcohol in this marijuana thread.

As a rule, I try to avoid Strawman arguments in discussions.

But if you'd like to start an "Alcohol thread", I'd be happy to discuss it.

Are you consistent in thinking alcohol legality should be a state decision as well? Somehow I doubt it

Sure! You doubt incorrectly.

That's a slam-dunk 50-0, but I'm all for it if you can find 50 politicians who would like to immediately end their careers.


And you are completely ignorant if you don't get the racism behind MJ prohibition.

You should advocate for the de-legalization of golf and classical music if you feel so strongly.
 
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