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Vermont's chairlift safety bar law

billski

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think it's friendly for someone to say "ready?" before lowering it.

Touche'. As an engineer in my first life, I never assume anything. I also don't go for all this non-verbal stuff. I grab the bar, if nobody else is and say "ready" or "all set" or something and look at them for an answer. Nothing worse than sitting in a chair silently as if they were threatening troublemakers. Hey we're all in this world together, it's not the metro, so why not be friendly and make things a little more pleasant for everyone?

Ok, down from my soapbox.
 

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I see this a lot. Doesn't it make sense to simply assume the bar will come down soon after loading? I prefer it down, mostly cuz like DHS I like to lean on it, plus I don't like the feeling of it being up. I really don't care whether or not it's a valid safety issue, or should be a law, but when loading a lift you should assume it's coming down by somebody on the chair.
Interestingly enough, I almost always DO assume fellow riders may want the bar down. As soon as I am settled, I mean back and look to my right and see the consensus is. The problem is a lot of folks are dropping the bar immediately after they sit down. I like to lean forward and stick my poles under my legs and get comfortable before I get squished in, and I think I deserve that right just as much as the other riders have the right to put the bar down. So if I get some warning... I can say "hold a sec, K, thx. Now I am good".
 

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Fer christs sake - its a freakin safety feature. WTF would anyone try to shoot holes in it, unless they were lookin for a quick payday for their own death insurance money-wise...
Damn, I finally got called out on my death wish so S can cash in on three years of my salary via insurance. I will have to find another way out of this life to let her cash in.
 

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I like to lean forward and stick my poles under my legs and get comfortable before I get squished in

I stick the poles between my legs (no comments please :razz:) and just sit down with them in place. A quick ass readjustment and I'm good. Yeah, I guess a verbal warning is a good call.
 

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I stick the poles between my legs (no comments please :razz:) and just sit down with them in place. A quick ass readjustment and I'm good. Yeah, I guess a verbal warning is a good call.

I do the exact same thing.
 

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i always put the bar down but as an experiment, because of this thread, i didn't take any action last night @ ski sundown. 20% of the time (2 of the 10 chairs) the other people didn't make a move and we rode to the top with the bar up.

didn't count but of the 8 rides where the bar was put down most people made a comment about bar coming down.
 

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I wasn't in that 20%

I put it down, no matter what kind of doofus is on with me...

lol - just sayin...
 

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But as far as the law is concerned, has anyone been fined and/or arrested for failing to pull the bar down?

I found this after a brief search:

2006 Vermont Passenger Tramway Rules...
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1007.2 Each chair shall be equipped with a restraint bar, which shall not yield to forward pressure applied by passenger(s). The passenger(s) must have the restraint bar fully closed except when they are embarking or disembarking the lift.


No mention here of a fine, which is not to say it isn't addressed elsewhere. Then again, it would explain why no one knows of anyone actually being fined.
 

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Should I merge this?


I bet most threads are like Kevin Bacon and could be related in some way. ;)


:lol:
 
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