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Jcb890

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The people that I see tele-ski, pretty much lunge every turn. I always just assumed that was the whole idea, otherwise, why bother doing tele?
 

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The people that I see tele-ski, pretty much lunge every turn. I always just assumed that was the whole idea, otherwise, why bother doing tele?

I'll bite. For me some things are easier on tele skis. Bumps, Trees, Powder. When I am on a groomer there really is no reason to tele turn other than checking speed every now and then.
 

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I'll bite. For me some things are easier on tele skis. Bumps, Trees, Powder. When I am on a groomer there really is no reason to tele turn other than checking speed every now and then.
Interesting. Honestly, I don't think any of the tele skiers I see here in New England ski like that.
 

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Well you may not notice them when they aren't in tele turns
That's a good point. I guess I notice way more people that do ski the way I am describing. There probably are some "real" tele skiers out there that I don't see too often.
 

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I do want to point out that I didn't start the question... nor am I a tele-evangelist...

I was only hoping to help spread some understanding for a group of skiers that people may or may not have run across before... where it seemed it was "not", based on the elementary questions.

I mean, I'm not sure I'd elect myself as a person to represent that community (or any). I can only speak of my own experiences.

Also, it's not as if I care if so or so person like abc does approves of, or doesn't approve of my TYPES of skis or my personal TYPES of skiing. If you don't - so what? Who cares? Stick to your own thing (and if you're sticking your nose anywhere, stick it into your own thing).

I'll bite. For me some things are easier on tele skis. Bumps, Trees, Powder. When I am on a groomer there really is no reason to tele turn other than checking speed every now and then.

While abc would wrongly judge you as not being a teleskier for this, it's 'valid' teleskiing to me.

I might make a few more tele turns on groomers than you, but just because I happen to love the way a tele turn feels, and how each different type of tele turn feels different. I might monomark on that 'boring' section or go extra-deep old-school if I happen to feel like it or even snowplow. Each turn presents a whole new opportunity for a whole new whim, part of why I like the sport. Whereas alpine (for me) is a lot more locked-down limiting and less freedom - same turn on every turn.

If I cared, from this thread I might now worry that someone like smellytele on a chairlift might see this as showboating if I go deep knee on a turn, or someone like abc would see a snowplow as cheating, or a tele newbie who is so enthralled and excited by tele turns feeling like any turn not using elegant tele lines is a 'wasted' opportunity and a potential sellout to alpine (I admit to having this short phase in my beginning 20+ years ago)... to plastic boots are sellout to lift-service... the 'active' spring-binding on some of my teleskis are a sell-out... etc, etc.... the list would go on and on.

Who cares? Ski what and how you like. F everyone else's expectations. Seriously, do you apply the same rules on alpine skiers? I noticed abc completely avoided those questions (of what she judges as 'valid' and correct types of alpine skiing to her).

No one cares that you tele.

That applies to everything, no? It's not just tele.

Your coworkers to you: No one cares that you ski

Me to my coworkers: No one cares that you golf

Your road racing friends to you: No one cares that you mountain bike

Your mountain biking friends to you: No one cares that you road bike

Or XC... or kayak... or run... or any of the other things that some people are passionate about, that others might not be.

It's April.... The weather report for the weekend ISN'T for classic Spring temps and soft snow... Most of the masses are done for the season. There's more areas open than typically at this time of the season, many with more acres than usual for early April. Crowding just isn't going to be a real issue this weekend. And the snow surfaces should be fairly similar across the vast majority of New England. Get out on the hill and go for it... The number of opportunities to do so this season is dwindling.. .

Back on topic... I completely agree. No crowds. Still good snow. Go for it!
 

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Also, it's not as if I care if so or so person like abc does approves of, or doesn't approve of my TYPES of skis or my personal TYPES of skiing. If you don't - so what? Who cares? Stick to your own thing (and if you're sticking your nose anywhere, stick it into your own thing).



While abc would wrongly judge you as not being a teleskier for this, it's 'valid' teleskiing to me.

I might make a few more tele turns on groomers than you, but just because I happen to love the way a tele turn feels, and how each different type of tele turn feels different. I might monomark on that 'boring' section or go extra-deep old-school if I happen to feel like it or even snowplow. Each turn presents a whole new opportunity for a whole new whim, part of why I like the sport. Whereas alpine (for me) is a lot more locked-down limiting and less freedom - same turn on every turn.

If I cared, from this thread I might now worry that someone like smellytele on a chairlift might see this as showboating if I go deep knee on a turn, or someone like abc would see a snowplow as cheating, or a tele newbie who is so enthralled and excited by tele turns feeling like any turn not using elegant tele lines is a 'wasted' opportunity and a potential sellout to alpine (I admit to having this short phase in my beginning 20+ years ago)... to plastic boots are sellout to lift-service... the 'active' spring-binding on some of my teleskis are a sell-out... etc, etc.... the list would go on and on.
For someone who proclaimed not-to-care, you posted long hypothetical answers to all the questions that you "don't care"!!!

If posting a full page is "not care", I wonder what it would be like when you care!

Who cares? Ski what and how you like. F everyone else's expectations. Seriously, do you apply the same rules on alpine skiers? I noticed abc completely avoided those questions (of what she judges as 'valid' and correct types of alpine skiing to her).
Seems to me you CARE a great deal! You care so much you keep tab on whether I answered a question that wasn't asked!

Funny thing is, I don't care how *you* ski. I don't care how *I* skis. I don't even care WHAT I ski!

Yes, I skied ON tele gear for a few hours one time, when I was waiting on the AT gear I intend to demo which was already checked out by someone else. To pass the time, I "demo" a tele setup, even though I had no intention to tele at that point. So, I slapped some skins on, skinned up for a bit, skied down with the group. The terrain was sufficiently complex I didn't feel like it's the time to experiment on a new turn. So I paralleled the whole time, with a bit of snowplow and some side-slipping thrown in.

Was I a tele skier even though I didn't make a single tele turn??? I bet not. Because I didn't have the right mentality that I'm special just because I'm on tele gear!
 

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Was I a tele skier even though I didn't make a single tele turn??? I bet not. Because I didn't have the right mentality that I'm special just because I'm on tele gear!

I'll just point out that the key part you revealed here about 'feeling special' just because you're on a different ski, is entirely a construct you yourself felt, made up and created. Yes? I've never seen "hey, come tele, be and feel special" adverts or ever heard a tele person say or express or even hint at that thought.

Honestly - have you ever heard someone ever express that? Really? Or is it simply you, looking at them, where YOU project onto them, "Sigh, I bet they just must feel sooo 'special' over me".

Next time you feel that - just go ask them, "Hey, why do you tele?" They'd likely tell you. I would. It might be many reasons, but I'd bet "'cuz I feel special over you" wouldn't be one of them. That's simply you projecting.

And no - I agree - you weren't a teleskier - you were simply someone who strapped on tele skis where your heart wasn't into it. So great - we have some common ground there. That is indeed a totally different scenario than a non-tele person completely invalidating an actual tele person with passion for the sport, since they wrongly and mistakenly feel one 'non-lunge' turn (as our Worcester friend here aptly put it) means it is 'fake' tele skiing.

I've said my piece on that, and made my point. Feel free to disagree. I'm done with the topic... now let me get back to my feeling 'more special' over you because of the ski I'm wearing. :)
 

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I get bummed near the end of ski season too.

This is so true!! I found myself feeling the quality of the corn snow of the melting snow piles in the work parking lot this morning. Only several inches left. "There they go..."
 

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I'll just point out that the key part you revealed here about 'feeling special' just because you're on a different ski, is entirely a construct you yourself felt, made up and created. Yes? I've never seen "hey, come tele, be and feel special" adverts or ever heard a tele person say or express or even hint at that thought.

Honestly - have you ever heard someone ever express that? Really? Or is it simply you, looking at them, where YOU project onto them, "Sigh, I bet they just must feel sooo 'special' over me".

Next time you feel that - just go ask them, "Hey, why do you tele?" They'd likely tell you. I would. It might be many reasons, but I'd bet "'cuz I feel special over you" wouldn't be one of them. That's simply you projecting.

And no - I agree - you weren't a teleskier - you were simply someone who strapped on tele skis where your heart wasn't into it. So great - we have some common ground there. That is indeed a totally different scenario than a non-tele person completely invalidating an actual tele person with passion for the sport, since they wrongly and mistakenly feel one 'non-lunge' turn (as our Worcester friend here aptly put it) means it is 'fake' tele skiing.
You "just point out" a "key part" that you just made up, and wrote a long thesis on it!

I've said my piece on that, and made my point. Feel free to disagree. I'm done with the topic... now let me get back to my feeling 'more special' over you because of the ski I'm wearing. :)
I'm glad you're done. Considering all the question you never asked but expect answers, and supposed "feeling" of others, how many more long dissertation are still pending?
 

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Yo who cares about the tellamarketer.

Whats the repoet from hippie fest? Cars and lodge burning? Dirty hippie sex in the lodge? Groomers running over passed out hippies?
 
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