Kingslug20
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Its disgusting..ski resorts ..at least to people like us are not numbers...unfortunately..we do not matter...so now..wildcat is toast.
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What in the world is going on at wildcat…
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Dickc
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Thanks Wolfman.
lol it's more like vail has far too few employees at many of their areas. Their competitors don't have the same problem nearly to the same degree.
True to a degree but mostly bs. MUCH bigger problem is lack of staff.
Thinking is hard bruh!
eatskisleep
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Looks like they are letting us know they have a few snow makers on the mountain...
Okemo must've had a few spare snowmakers lying around
All three of them—the Attitash Snowmaker, the Crotched Snowmaker, and the Wildcat Snowmaker. Wildcat won the lotto today.
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Pretty much. The NH mountains are being staffed primarily by patrol and ski school staff. They forgot to hire the rest of the positions. Sunapee snow makers were sent to Okemo for a bit. Never ending experience of a lifetime. I wonder if Crotched will ever open? Last in the state likely, save a rope tow operation it 2.
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The worst part there is not only have they lost the core of experience and ops knowledge, not only are they short on maintenance staff, but inexperienced snowmakers and shorthanded crews create broken machinery as reliably as cutting pass prices generates sales!
Was a regular since '75. Worked for Patrol for 20 years...
Not any more....
Newpylong
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Re: Wildcat and Attitash.
No one spent more money on snowmaking at those two places than Peaks did. I did not like their management style (the Boyds were turds to put it mildly and it was a good ol' boy mentality) but they spent the money on snowmaking. Wildcat had their booster station entirely replaced, tons of victaulic pipe was replaced and lots of Low E was purchased.
They installed tons of fans, Low E, replaced most of the abysmal ASC valve stations, and a ton of new pipe at Attitash too.
Both of those two places have suffered imensely from the loss of institutional knowledge, as well as the Vail bean counters who have shunned all things New Hampshire. Sunapee has two routes off the top, no South Peak, North or Sun Bowl. Crotched isn't even open yet. No Bear Peak at Attitash. No summit at Wildcat.
You pay for the Walmart experience you're going to get it, except perhaps at the flagship store.
Anyone who buys in on it can't complain. There has never a better time to ski independent.
No one spent more money on snowmaking at those two places than Peaks did. I did not like their management style (the Boyds were turds to put it mildly and it was a good ol' boy mentality) but they spent the money on snowmaking. Wildcat had their booster station entirely replaced, tons of victaulic pipe was replaced and lots of Low E was purchased.
They installed tons of fans, Low E, replaced most of the abysmal ASC valve stations, and a ton of new pipe at Attitash too.
Both of those two places have suffered imensely from the loss of institutional knowledge, as well as the Vail bean counters who have shunned all things New Hampshire. Sunapee has two routes off the top, no South Peak, North or Sun Bowl. Crotched isn't even open yet. No Bear Peak at Attitash. No summit at Wildcat.
You pay for the Walmart experience you're going to get it, except perhaps at the flagship store.
Anyone who buys in on it can't complain. There has never a better time to ski independent.
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People might disagree with how Peaks upgraded snowmaking, but you have to admit they did upgrade snowmaking.
Edd
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Yes, if you continually buy into it, I agree. Last year was the first they owned Wildcat and COVID made the season so fucked I couldn’t ascertain how they’d run it in a normal season.
We’re not normal yet but it’s now clear how they regard their NH properties so, short of a miraculous January turnaround (not happening) I’m pretty sure I’m done. I did not see this level of neglect coming.
This is actually the third season of Vail owning Peak properties.
2019-20 - transition year with early shutdown. I upgraded my Peak pass to Epic local that year so I could ski Stowe
2020-2021 - Covid all year
2021-2022 - Still Covid, but they should have things fully figured out by now
My plan was to take this year off from Vail. If I saw a return to Peak level of effort and competence, I'd go back for next year. Wildcat is my favorite NH ski area and Stowe my favorite in VT. CM and Sunapee decent local options for quick hits. It's the perfect pass for the coastal NH resident. Much better than Ikon or Indy.
No chance in hell I go back with what I'm seeing now. I'd still love to someday, but Vail has a LONG way to go to earn my spend back.
On a separate note cannon is skiing real nice today. If I worked marketing here I would give every single epic pass holder a half price ticket from open to right before Xmas so they could see what a well functioning mtn ops plan looks like.
Edit I'm going back to the state of nh doing the whole hostile takeover at wildcat fantasy. It would be some karma for the whole park city fiasco
Edit I'm going back to the state of nh doing the whole hostile takeover at wildcat fantasy. It would be some karma for the whole park city fiasco
It would be nice if a NH politician started making some noise at Vail. One of the big knocks against them has been over crowding at their areas. Wildcat/Attitash have been DEAD so far this season. I'm sure this is hurting local businesses in the valley.
I doubt that libertarian NH is going to do anything. Add to it that the Governor MIGHT have a conflict of interest when it comes to the ski industry and I doubt that they will do anything.
LOL don't forget how weird NH is politically. The national politicians are all democrats and Sununu/Ayotte are afraid to run against them. Even it was just one of the Conway selectmen it would be amusing.
Well, 2022 is an election year. And this is a huge impact on NH's economy.
