What the heck is going on at Magic?

[zoomzoom]

re: annual lift inspections

--- just google "vt tramway" to ascertain annual inspection requirements the expectations are clear, and the areas have ample time (from roughly april thru october) to get ready. no secrets, no surprises. so how does one fail an inspection?

--- annual lift inspection reports are "discoverable documents" (google time again). if you want to know the inspectors' findings on the black over the last dozen years or so, contact erin.sylvia@vermont.gov for a copy of the reports (got this on the website too). they are in the public domain and must be released to those who ask.

--- the truth is out there if one digs a bit, the truth is not here.

 

[MMP]

re: annual lift inspections

--- shown below are vt's annual lift inspection guidelines listing what is expected, what the area needs to demonstrate, what docs are needed, etc. these requirements are available to everyone to see. just google "vt tramway". the expectations are clear, and the areas have ample time (from roughly april thru october) to get ready. no secrets, no surprises. so how does one fail an inspection?

--- annual lift inspection reports are "discoverable documents" (google time again). if you want to know the inspectors' findings on the black over the last dozen years or so, contact erin.sylvia@vermont.gov for a copy of the reports (got this on the website too). they are in the public domain and must be released to those who ask.

--- the truth is out there if one digs a bit, the truth is not here.



The Vermont Department of Labor’s (VDOL) Tramway Division is committed to working closely with all ski operators regarding tramway safety issues. It is the aim of the VDOL Tramway Division to provide safety support, information and excellent service to ski operators within the state.

Due to the increasing demands on the Tramway Division staff’s time, and to conduct annual inspections efficiently, we have established safety guidelines for the annual inspections. The Tramway Division believes these guidelines will be beneficial to both the ski operators and the tramway safety inspection program.

The following recommendations are expected to be completed by the ski operators prior to the VDOL’s annual inspection. The Tramway Inspector may suspend an annual inspection until such time as the ski lift is properly prepared. We believe these guidelines will result in efficient and timely inspections.

The manager of the ski operation shall provide a signed document to the Tramway Inspector stating that all required maintenance per the manufacturer guidelines has been completed.

All line work must be performed and documented per the manufacturer’s service manual. This includes grip and hanger service, minimum of 20% NDT inspection of all grips and hangers and cable inspection and line service (i.e. sheave liners, bearings and alignment). All maintenance documentation must be provided to the Tramway Inspector at the time of the inspection.

All electrical safety switches must be tested and verified for their proper operation prior to the tramway inspection.

All RPD/CPS must be tested annually and documentation of this testing must be provided to the Tramway Inspector. If the manufacturer requires additional testing throughout the year, documentation showing the additional testing must be provided to the Tramway Inspector.

All terminals must have lanyard switches installed which are properly labeled.

All load and unload ramps shall be properly maintained. All broken and/or missing boards are to be replaced. All cracked or broken windows are to be replaced.

All signage is to be properly installed and clearly legible.

All seats and seat pads are to be free from defects and properly installed.

All fire extinguishers are to have an inspection tag affixed to the fire extinguisher per NFPA and the monthly inspections required are to be signed off by appropriate staff.

All lift structures that use fuel for heating shall have a CO detector system installed and tested.

All lift terminals that are not clearly visible from an operator’s station, must have an operational fire alarm system installed and tested. The system must be able to notify the operator in the event of a fire.

All lifts must have a brake torque test log that is posted in the brakes area. The log must have the proper brake test values, last date tested, value found and what, if any, corrective actions were taken and by whom.

All lifts must have an evacuation /stand by APU run log posted in the engine area. The log must indicate run time and connected line operation time for each APU and stand by engine.

All brake torque testing devices and dynamometers must be calibrated annually and documentation supplied to the Tramway Inspector.

The current lift evacuation plan, documentation of monthly employee training and documentation of the evacuation equipment that has been inspected must be provided.

If the lift is required to have an EWRT inspection every 3 years or 3,000 hours, whichever is greater, documentation must be provided which shows when the last scheduled EWRT was completed.

At the time of the tramway inspection, the ski operation must be prepared to do the following:

1. Torque test all brakes and check all rollback devices for functionality.

2. Test the following circuits: motor tach loss, cable tach loss, field loss, overspeed controls and low voltage loss.

3. Start and run the lift under electric power, allowing time for an uphill and downhill line check by the Tramway Inspector.

4. Start and run the lift under APU power.

5. Demonstrate a successful rope evacuation from fixed and/or detachable carriers at a location of the Tramway Inspector’s discretion.

At the time of the inspection, the Tramway Inspector must be furnished copies of the following documents: NDT inspection report, cable inspection report, relocation and slip test documentation and a copy of the NDT certifications.

For those ski operations completing their own NDT inspections, you must provide the Tramway Inspector with the following:

1. Documentation that annual eye exams have been done.

2. Three year NDT re-certification documents.

3. Name of your level 3 Program Administrator.

4. Proof of your five year external operational audit conducted by an independent NDT Level III Technician.

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[Do Work]

Do they legally have to check all trails? I've always wondered whether patrol always checks a trail before opening it. I could understand having to sweep all open trails at the end of the day, so if that is what you mean, then that would make sense to me. Otherwise at least at other areas I've definitely had first tracks down trails which implies no one actually checked the trail in the morning. Although I guess if they know nothing substantial should have changed overnight then I could understand a trail not being checked in the morning before letting skiers on it if it was open the day before. I'm still also kind of thinking I've seen ropes dropped on trails without them being physically checked, but I could be wrong.

Depends. Some trails have to be checked because they see strange winds etc that can scour them, but if you know the terrain, basic snow pack and what fell last night you can usually just make a judgement call based on general conditions.

 

[MMP]

Depends. Some trails have to be checked because they see strange winds etc that can scour them, but if you know the terrain, basic snow pack and what fell last night you can usually just make a judgement call based on general conditions.

assuming you aren't a complete idiot. frankly i preferred when stuff was roped and we could duck and ski without consequence. The patrollers have been playing small ball for a while. It's pretty annoying. My kid got his ticket punched because he put his safety bar up too soon. The patroller unfortunately didnt realize he clipped last weeks Burke ticket.

 

[Do Work]

assuming you aren't a complete idiot. frankly i preferred when stuff was roped and we could duck and ski without consequence. The patrollers have been playing small ball for a while. It's pretty annoying. My kid got his ticket punched because he put his safety bar up too soon. The patroller unfortunately didnt realize he clipped last weeks Burke ticket.

Cappie-tan is gone anyways. The new guy has every motivation to ski the gnar but use signage so people know what they're getting into. It's a big priority.

Now if we could just keep stupid assholes from skiing upper Red we'd be all set!

 

[dlague]

Cappie-tan is gone anyways. The new guy has every motivation to ski the gnar but use signage so people know what they're getting into. It's a big priority.

Now if we could just keep stupid assholes from skiing upper Red we'd be all set!

Keeping them off Upper Red would be nice but will be a challenge. It get scraped off really fast and gets beat to shit!

 

[Do Work]

Keeping them off Upper Red would be nice but will be a challenge. It get scraped off really fast and gets beat to shit!

It's a permanent closure. Nobody should ever be on it unless the chair if turned off. Period.

 

[dlague]

It's a permanent closure. Nobody should ever be on it unless the chair if turned off. Period.

I am talking about the section off Witches! The very Upper section has always been closed when I have been there.

 

[slatham]

Upper upper Red (above Witch) is off limits and anyone who skis it should be banned forever.

Upper Red (b/w Witch and Wand) - there should be a "no slide slip test" before allowing entry!

 

[Do Work]

Upper upper Red (above Witch) is off limits and anyone who skis it should be banned forever.

Upper Red (b/w Witch and Wand) - there should be a "no slide slip test" before allowing entry!

Agreed on both counts haha... It is like nails on a chalkboard when I see someone side slipping anything on Red. It just hurts me inside.

 

[makimono]

The upper section of red needs a few more redundant snow fences above the cliff. There was the Sobe fence below the cliff for a while. Need 2 or 3 of those just above the cliff spaced 10-15 feet apart. Need to make it a pain in the ass to ski, unfortunately.

Ten times more people skied that last year than I ever remember and I believe this is a consequence of keeping otherwise perfectly skiable trials closed. When people see Upper Magician roped but perfectly skiable, when people see Witch (and Goniff and Red Line and Upper Black Line) roped but perfectly skiable...when people see huge groups of regulars ducking those ropes repeatedly...it may give people that don't know the difference the sense that ALL ropes are okay to disregard.

I'm really glad to hear that's going to change this year!

 

[MMP]

that little thing is a two-stager that no one skis properly. Angle from skiers right to left, launch, land, launch, avoid snowmaking pipe, proceed. Hurts my eyes to see the damage the "skiers" do to that. And the old "I cut in so didnt know it was closed" move? right.

 

[dlague]

Upper upper Red (above Witch) is off limits and anyone who skis it should be banned forever.

Upper Red (b/w Witch and Wand) - there should be a "no slide slip test" before allowing entry!

+1

 

[MadMadWorld]

that little thing is a two-stager that no one skis properly. Angle from skiers right to left, launch, land, launch, avoid snowmaking pipe, proceed. Hurts my eyes to see the damage the "skiers" do to that. And the old "I cut in so didnt know it was closed" move? right.

Wait are you saying that people don't get to Redline by cutting through the woods from Twilight Zone??? :what:

 

[MMP]

From Witch or RH

 

[Do Work]

Wait are you saying that people don't get to Redline by cutting through the woods from Twilight Zone??? :what:

We're talking about the section of Red above witch that is a permanent closure. People think because they skied around 3 trees they can use the " I dunno I got lost in there and here I am, better ski down!" Excuse. I've seen little kids tell at people for doing that haha

 

[RustyGroomer]

I ski Redline from Sorcerer.

 

[MMP]

I ski Redline from Sorcerer.

Backcountry yo

 

[Do Work]

Just checking out some of the old videos and had to post a few. Found Rusty's shot of people skiing Tali's epic grooming too

Just a few of the characters you'll see there:

 

[Do Work]

OMG THE GROOMING!!!