Newpylong
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Silly comment. Local management runs the show at the individual mountains. Where they may run into issues is capital expenditures, which is always the case with parent companies.
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What's with Peak Resort owned Ski Resort Lifts closed at 3:30 pm?
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Silly comment. Local management runs the show at the individual mountains. Where they may run into issues is capital expenditures, which is always the case with parent companies.
Newpylong
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I have to agree with this. When I used to go up to Attitash to race in the 90's the place was absolutely buried in man made, and they had near 100% snow making. This was pre-Bear.
Going back today it is certainly clear that after the first year the fan guns went in the effort stopped. That Triple needs to be replaced. No excuse.
Smellytele
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I guess their incompetence is in hiring the local management then.
I believe that for the last couple years Attitash and Wildcat have been run by a member of the family that owns Peak Resorts and relocated to the MWV.
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drjeff
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Wildcat has a new GM this season. Brian Heon, who came from Mount Snow where he'd been the previous few years first as head of lifts and then as snow surfaces manager. Brian came to Peak Resorts from The Canyons where he'd been head of lifts.
Brian is a very hands on, very personable guy, who I got to know the last few years at Mount Snow. His promotion to GM at Wildcat was well deserved, and given the proper tools, he will have great success at Wildcat.
I have heard only good things about him. I just worry about whether he will be "given the proper tools." He made a lot of big, unfulfilled promises in the early season. There was overwhelming optimism and positive vibes all around in November. Since then there has been a stunned silence as reality sinks in.
I'll chalk this one up to bad luck and the legacy of the previous management. But if I don't hear about some big investments coming soon, then I'll be taking my business elsewhere next year. With all the investments elsewhere in New Hampshire and the new Superpass available, there is suddenly a better option in town.
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Tin
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The triple needs to be replaced but I doubt a new lift will attract the numbers needed to justify the expense. Too many other mountains close by imo.
+1. But they have positioned themselves for the inevitable slow bleed to the bottom.
Attitash eventually will cover the entire mountain with snow, but it seems to take all the way until February vacation... Just in time for them to close in March.
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The chair went in in 1986, so while not young, it has far from reached it's usable life. There's lots of 40-50 year old chairs around New England.
I agree with you that they probably wouldn't get the ROI on a new High Speed. I also get the argument from some that it would overload the trails from the summit. Perhaps a compromise might be a conveyor system like Shawnee uses on their Peak Triple or Sugarloaf has on Spillway. I bet that would cut the ride time down to a much more tolerable 10 minutes or so as well as be a far cheaper investment to make.
Dickc
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Sunday River closes SOME lifts at 3:30. The lifts that that run out of the areas with base lodges run until 4PM. Early season when they only have the Locke chair running, yes they do stop uploading early. That has a 10% download capacity and they need time to download from the mid station.
Think that conveyer system would do the trick, get the ride time down to under 12minutes would be a huge difference. the trails would have a hard time handling a lot more skiers. They are having problems with that triple now and are hoping to have it repaired this week end.
My thought on that is to reduce the number of chairs on the triple to maintain the same downhill capacity while offering a shorter ride for those willing to wait for it. They do have some permit approval to add trails up top, but that was back during the ASC and Booth days. I'm guessing the mountain would have to submit a new master plan to the USFS to establish additional terrain to handle increased skier traffic. Until that happens, a conveyor system seems the most logically shorter money investment to appease Attitash's current customer base.
Yooper
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Getting back to Peak Resorts and their Lift Ops, have been at Mount Snow at least a half dozen times on week days this season since they opened and NOT once have I seen the Canyon Lift open. For years and years it was open during mid week NOT so any longer. Why not? Their are a lot of intermediate Skiers, Youngsters, Seniors that would love to lap Canyon and Snow Dance. I for one used to enjoy lapping them for the last few runs at the end of the day when I was getting tired. Also, when it is really windy ad cold at the Summit its nice to Ski the lower Mountain Trails. Not sure if anyone from Peaks Management reads this but if so, please give Customer Satisfaction some thought, at least your Loyal Season Pass holders a break and go back to opening it Mid Week or is that not in the Parks Budget Plan any longer?
drjeff
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Early and late season, especially since they installed the Bluebird, Mount Snow hasn't run Canyon midweek very much anymore. It's redundant in the terrain that it serves when the BB is running, plus the ride on the BB is warmer, and frankly more comfortable.
In another week or so (after Christmas week) you'll see Canyon operating midweek (unless there's a wind or de-icing or mechanical issue) all the way through mid March. Then after Mid March, Canyon will more than likely go back to weekends only.
Yooper
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Curious then what's the $39 Lower Mountain mid week Ticket? Certainly not Launch Pad for that price.
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If you look at the interactive trail map, Tumbleweed and Seasons are listed as lower mountain lifts, and I assume it includes Launch Pad, not sure about Baba.
Newpylong
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There is zero business case to run Canyon midweek with small crowds, however nice it is.
What I saw Christmas week from Sunday River is lifts without a lodge at the base terminal closed at 3:30 pm (even though they were ridiculously crowded that day), everything with a lodge went til 3:45 pm and then only the chondola and South Ridge Express went after 4 pm.
Wildcat running til only 3:30 is a bit cheap, but I know previous management was only running til 3:30 pm until mid January. Went to Wildcat one January day right after new years and thought they were running til 4 pm. Boarded the quad the last time at 3:30; was a bit surprised to see the closed rope up when a came back down and they were already taking the chairs off the line at 3:45 pm.
Wildcat running til only 3:30 is a bit cheap, but I know previous management was only running til 3:30 pm until mid January. Went to Wildcat one January day right after new years and thought they were running til 4 pm. Boarded the quad the last time at 3:30; was a bit surprised to see the closed rope up when a came back down and they were already taking the chairs off the line at 3:45 pm.
Still no word from Wildcat on the snowmaking situation. I think we are screwed big time this year. I'm now thinking we won't see any snowmaking on the upper mountain. FML.
Latest from Attitash:
Q: What is up with the summit triple?
A: Not to create concern, but we are rebuilding the main gear box at the base of the lift. This is the mystery box that converts the rapid revolutions of the big electric motor and reduces it to spin the bullwheel at the base of the lift and hence the cable to which the chairs are attached. After a routine inspection this fall, after summer/fall operations, it was recommended we consider a rebuild the components of the main gear box. The project will end up costing over $100,000. The replacement parts needed to be special ordered and custom built by the manufacturer, Kissling, headquartered in Zurich, Switzerland. The parts were ordered immediately after the inspection in the middle of October and arrived on site Tuesday! There is a team of professionals working side by side with our mechanics to get the lift back in service. We are shooting for Saturday, but it is a complicated piece of machinery and we will always err on the side of safety. We are confident the lift will be back in service in a matter of days and before the busy holiday week. Humphrey’s Ledge and Upper Saco are ready for a final groom and will be available when the summit lift spins. Thank you all for your patience and please be assured your safety is our primary concern.
Latest from Attitash:
Q: What is up with the summit triple?
A: Not to create concern, but we are rebuilding the main gear box at the base of the lift. This is the mystery box that converts the rapid revolutions of the big electric motor and reduces it to spin the bullwheel at the base of the lift and hence the cable to which the chairs are attached. After a routine inspection this fall, after summer/fall operations, it was recommended we consider a rebuild the components of the main gear box. The project will end up costing over $100,000. The replacement parts needed to be special ordered and custom built by the manufacturer, Kissling, headquartered in Zurich, Switzerland. The parts were ordered immediately after the inspection in the middle of October and arrived on site Tuesday! There is a team of professionals working side by side with our mechanics to get the lift back in service. We are shooting for Saturday, but it is a complicated piece of machinery and we will always err on the side of safety. We are confident the lift will be back in service in a matter of days and before the busy holiday week. Humphrey’s Ledge and Upper Saco are ready for a final groom and will be available when the summit lift spins. Thank you all for your patience and please be assured your safety is our primary concern.
A 3:30 close does not seem that big of a deal, particularly this time of year, I believe Attitash kept the lifts spinning later during those warm days at the end of March this past year.
That said, Peaks seems to have a PR fiasco on their hands and plenty of negative perception out there. The scarce open terrain at both MWV mountains at the end of December is strange. An inspection of a critial piece of equipment in mid October appears to be very late in the season for inspecting and discovering something like that. The Wildcat pipe?, all this would seem to be preventable.
That said, Peaks seems to have a PR fiasco on their hands and plenty of negative perception out there. The scarce open terrain at both MWV mountains at the end of December is strange. An inspection of a critial piece of equipment in mid October appears to be very late in the season for inspecting and discovering something like that. The Wildcat pipe?, all this would seem to be preventable.
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