When is enough.....enough.

[ctenidae]

WTF??? You snap a femur, it takes a lot longer to heal-up when your 40, than it does when your 20. Nothing to do with cost/benefit analysis.

Is your enjoyment worth the risk? As you formulate your answer, note that that is a cost/benefit analysis.

 

[Beetlenut]

Is your enjoyment worth the risk? As you formulate your answer, note that that is a cost/benefit analysis.

Oh please leave work out of it. That's why I ski in the first place, to forget about work. I take my rose colored glasses off when I ski anyway.

 

[riverc0il]

I will always draw the line at "you fall, you die". Everything else is fair game

I will echo that sentiment (not "no fall zone" ASC style double black groomed trails, but true you fall you die type terrain as seen in the ski porn flicks). I also draw that line at hucks over 10 feet and any hucks with sketchy landings.

 

[riverc0il]

Like by driving to the ski area. No matter how reckless you are skiing your odds of dying are way greater on the drive there. (No I don't have any evidence to back this up)

I disagree with that statement (emphasis mine).

 

[hardline]

for me its not about pushing yourself to the point that if you screw up you die. its about doing something that makes me pretty damm happy. steep chutes sure if there is good snow. hucking cliffs are fun when the landing doesn't hurt your knees. groomers are great for laying trenches. the trees of northern vermont well thats where my heart lies. even a day teaching a friend skills that i have aquired over some odd 20 years to make the more skilled. it all gravy. the point will always be to just go out and have fun. you are not having fun if your thinking about it.

 

[dmc]

I like calculated risk.. If it's acceptable for my ability... I'm there..

 

[dmc]

I had this argument with Tim at lunch today. I said, 'I want to go to tuckerman's'. He said, 'you'll die'. I said 'I'm just as likely to die in the car on the way there'.

Have you been???

Cause you can ski some SUPER mellow stuff there - if you are so inclined...

 

[bigbog]

Ditto dmc's....

Tux or anyother portion of the Mt. Washington chain is a great trip in itself, even if you climb(in good weather & safe conditions) from the ravine floor...

 

[awf170]

I had this argument with Tim at lunch today. I said, 'I want to go to tuckerman's'. He said, 'you'll die'. I said 'I'm just as likely to die in the car on the way there'. Then he got all moody and now I'm not going.

So I guess my answer is, it's never really enough.

People tumble all the way down Tucks all the time and are usually a bit shaken up but fine. Just pick a line with no rocks in the run-out and you'll be fine.

I will echo that sentiment (not "no fall zone" ASC style double black groomed trails, but true you fall you die type terrain as seen in the ski porn flicks). I also draw that line at hucks over 10 feet and any hucks with sketchy landings.

You really won't go over 10 ft. with a perfect landing and good conditions? I would say that taking a 15 footer to a nice soft, open landing is a heck of lot less dangerous than skiing woods at the speed you do. Especially seeing that IMO you easily have the talent to be able to take 12-15 footers.

I disagree with that statement (emphasis mine).

Huh?:-?

 

[riverc0il]

You really won't go over 10 ft. with a perfect landing and good conditions? I would say that taking a 15 footer to a nice soft, open landing is a heck of lot less dangerous than skiing woods at the speed you do. Especially seeing that IMO you easily have the talent to be able to take 12-15 footers.

With a good landing, I would probably push it past 10. That is my current level of experience so bigger drops with good landings are fair game. That 10 isn't firm but an estimate. It's "enough"... which I intended to mean I'll back off pretty quickly anything over 10 that I don't like the looks of. I don't ski that fast in the woods, FWIW.

Huh?:-?

I disagree that "no matter how reckless you are skiing" you are more likely to get killed driving than skiing. I have seen some pretty reckless skiers out there that certainly increase the odds of serious injury and/or death. Overall stats show the average person is more likely to get hurt traveling.... but excessive risk taking and recklessness certainly change the odds significantly.

 

[Geoff]

There is no such thing as "too many ski days in a year". For me, anything less than 50 in a calendar year is a disaster.

There is no such thing as "too much powder".

Corn snow is almost as good as powder.

I've dialed back the terrain as I've aged. I'm 49 and haven't had intact ACLs in decades. I'm happiest on ungroomed medium-pitch terrain. I prefer to turn when I'm on the groomers and my skis are always up on edge rather than running flat at Warp 9. On the flats, I'm usually on the edge of the trail doing tight turns rather than cruising down the middle. I stay out of the zipper line and usually finesse bumps by sking them against the grain or on the edge of the trail where the troughs aren't as big. In the west, I stay off the true no-fall steeps. I haven't been on Spanky's Ladder or Blow Hole at Blackcomb in a decade. Medium-pitch trees are fine. I hang on Patsy's and Low Rider at Killington and rarely ski Bear's Ass, Anarchy, or Julio unless I'm peer-pressured into it.

 

[kingslug]

Damn KS, you're turning into a regular drama queen :lol:

HMMMM, I'll take drama king.

 

[kingslug]

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[andyzee]

The reason I posted this was in response to an article I read, posted by the Admin over on First Tracks. It was about 2 accidents at Whiteface, the same kind that happen everywhere. Almost killed one guy, the other still in the hospital. Also the "little" trip I took out across a cat track into Peruvian Gulch at SnowBird. Maybe not a fall you die scene, but it would have wrecked me for sure, I would have landed in a rock garden. So, I was just wondering how far I want to keep pushing the envelope, and how others felt.
I like DMC's calculated risk remark...that about sums it up.

Can you put me in your will? :lol:

 

[kingslug]

Can you put me in your will? :lol:

Sure. What would you like? My crappy boat, crappy Corvette, skis?

 

[andyzee]

Sure. What would you like? My crappy boat, crappy Corvette, skis?

Let the wife keep your lil dingy, I'm not a car person, what kind of skis we talking about?

 

[ctenidae]

The reason I posted this was in response to an article I read, posted by the Admin over on First Tracks. It was about 2 accidents at Whiteface, the same kind that happen everywhere. Almost killed one guy, the other still in the hospital. Also the "little" trip I took out across a cat track into Peruvian Gulch at SnowBird. Maybe not a fall you die scene, but it would have wrecked me for sure, I would have landed in a rock garden. So, I was just wondering how far I want to keep pushing the envelope, and how others felt.
I like DMC's calculated risk remark...that about sums it up.

One of the guys in that accident, I believe, works in my office. Broken ribs, collapsed lung, not sure what else. Apparently he'll be out for a month or two. Yikes.

Still, you pays your money, and you takes your chances.

 

[kingslug]

One of the guys in that accident, I believe, works in my office. Broken ribs, collapsed lung, not sure what else. Apparently he'll be out for a month or two. Yikes.

Still, you pays your money, and you takes your chances.

Damn, small world!

 

[kingslug]

Let the wife keep your lil dingy, I'm not a car person, what kind of skis we talking about?

K2 Apache Strykers, great ice and crud ski. Comes with a free helmet, but in this case it will prolly be cracked.