Whiteface Gondola incident - Hoodlums threatened to push passenger out

[woody]

Hearing about this brings back bad memories of highschool.I wouldn't blame the parents.The kids are soley responsible for thier actions.Hopefuly all this media attention will bring some sort of punishment,but not enough.

 

[rsf0000001]

If this was me and it was five years ago this kid would have ended up crying on the ground 50 feet below the gondi. Now that I'm a dad I am a little more mellow and I don't know what I would have done. Most likely I would have just pulled out my cell and called 911while still on the lift.

If I ever found out that my kid was doing something like this I can honestly say that he would be in for the ass whooping of his life. We don't hit or spank in our household but I have reserved the right to dish out a little parental justice if my teenager ever pulls crap like that.

 

[twinplanx]

Throw the book at these kids, whatever the book may be.

Hardline and GSS...be careful if you ever find yourself in the situation where you actually feel like getting involved physically, self-defense laws are not as powerful as you might think.

...Now if this would of happened in Texas the lifties might have quite the mess to clean

 

[Warp Daddy]

Nip this in teh Bud Whiteface ban these pricks for life and if any of you think these little bastards were just effin around think again -- little pukes who get away with shit bcuz well after al lthey're just kidz have a way into turning into bigger pukes later on

Bottom line BEHAVIOR MUST HAVE CONSEQUENCES ..

Ban these pukes and MAKE AN EXAMPLE OF THEM or we'll see more of this crap

 

[RENO]

There definitely would've been some fists flying if that was me. Maybe they would've kicked my ass, but they would've experienced some pain before it was over...

 

[tekweezle]

those punks are lucky they didn;t end up with their video camera or phone smashed up or dropped from the gondola. hope they get prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

 

[hardline]

Throw the book at these kids, whatever the book may be.



Hardline and GSS...be careful if you ever find yourself in the situation where you actually feel like getting involved physically, self-defense laws are not as powerful as you might think.

the only reason i say that is because when i was in highschool something very similar (not on a gondola) hapened to me. i was jumped by three kids. i was able to break one kids knee, knock the second out befor the third kids hit me with billy club. the cops showed right after that. the three kids parents tried to press assualt charges. because i had beet their kids so bad. when we went to court the judge just laughed at them as my lawyer played the video from the parking lot security cam. basiclly from what i understant of the law and that is limited. if another person threatens you with bodily harm you have every right to defend youself. now they atacker can turn around and try to bring a civil case against you but if you have decent lawyer and your life was really in peril most judges would toss it out.

 

[icedtea]

I regards to self- defense, in most states you are allowed to defend yourself with reasonable force to protect yourself or others. The problem comes in if, say you are attacked my an older, frail individual and you could easily restrain this individual with minimal effort, but instead decide to end the old guy's life, you will probably be charged.

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

I know if there's a burgler you can be charged with murder if you kill them..and my first instinct would be to shoot a burgler in the head..

 

[skiing is life]

i hate these kinds of kids. theyre type is always on the stratton gondola too acting hard and bitching at people..... f**k!:angry:

 

[legalskier]

I imagine they wanted to scare the living crap out of him and post their video on youtube.

This might be a new snowsports version of happy slapping, which reportedly originated in London and involves physical violence, unlike this case. However, certain verbal threats are actionable nonetheless under the criminal laws. It will be interesting to see how this case resolves itself. Here's a link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_slapping

 

[ed-drum]

If you catch a burglar with your valuables in his hands you can't kill him. If you catch him with a weapon in his hands, you can kill him. It's called "justifiable force". If you catch someone on your property trying to commit arson, you can kill him.

 

[gmcunni]

If you catch a burglar with your valuables in his hands you can't kill him.

semi-serious question, can you shoot him but not kill him and not be prosecuted?

 

[tommy5402]

Hope the resort steps up and gives them a permanent time out.

 

[gladerider]

Very true they are cowards.



I hope that happens. I also hope they can be punished by the law.

+2 if WF does ban these kids, it would be setting a great example for other ski resorts to follow. i've seen some rude kids in many resorts and they can ruin your experience. if i see one too many of these hoodlums in a resort, i'd definitely think twice about taking my family there again.

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

And I thought the captain of the ski team from Better Off Dead was a punk..

 

[ed-drum]

A lawyer friend of mine gave me some advice after the Heroin addict who moved in next door to me robbed us. Stick a knife in his hand. Yes, you can beat the crap out of someone if they are caught in your house. You can research the law in your state on these matters under penal law. The junkie went for a little vacation after that, to the "gray bar hotel". He moved out shortly after he robbed us. I made sure of it. On the ski angle, I caught a guy stealing my skis back in high school. Caught up to him in the parking lot and broke his jaw. Then I said "go ahead, get the cops". The people who saw me do it started clapping.

 

[tekweezle]

i am amazed how often people don;t abide by the golden rule-treat others the way you;d like to be treated. so maybe these punks ought to be dangled from outside a moving gondola car so they can full effect of it;s consequences. and they ought to be video taped peeing in their pants and posted on youtube.

the resort ought to crack down hard on those punks. no mercy. if they let them get away with it, how soon before these punks graduate to stealing skis and vandalizing cars?

 

[billski]

It's too bad they're underage. I'd make sure their names were in all the local paper, a bit of public humiliation never hurt. Oh and yeah, take away all their equipment too.

 

[SkiingInABlueDream]

A lawyer friend of mine gave me some advice after the Heroin addict who moved in next door to me robbed us. Stick a knife in his hand.

A hand seems like a very difficult target for someone not skilled at wielding a knife. I think Id aim for a face or chest if it really was a self-defense situation. But can you elaborate why hitting the hand makes you less prosecutable, since the advice comes from a lawyer?