Your FAVORITE ASC Resort

[eatskisleep]

Attitash in the Summer is the best.

 

[ozskier]

I have no idea why people knock ASC.
Where else are you going to get the snowmaking, lodging, service, lifts and terrain in the east for $349.

The only other option you have is the threedom pass, no thanks.

The Waterville / Cranmore deal was pre-asc, during the whole LBO era.

Sugarbush got hiked because there were an insane amount of roadblocks to getting more on mountain beds. ASC really spruced that place up, fast lifts, slide brook connection, snowmaking, etc.

 

[Vortex]

I agree on your feeling on the ASC pass OZ. I still feel that the Threedom is a good deal also. The ride home on sunday is the same as my work commute. Allows for more days out to make turns.

 

[skibum1321]

I have no idea why people knock ASC.
Where else are you going to get the snowmaking, lodging, service, lifts and terrain in the east for $349.

The only other option you have is the threedom pass, no thanks.

The Waterville / Cranmore deal was pre-asc, during the whole LBO era.

Sugarbush got hiked because there were an insane amount of roadblocks to getting more on mountain beds. ASC really spruced that place up, fast lifts, slide brook connection, snowmaking, etc.

I hate the crowds, the extreme overdevelopment, how they groom too much, make snow on too much, etc. IMO MRG is the ideal mtn except I wish they did blow snow on a few runs for early and late. Let the trails ski natural. I enjoy dodging rocks and the feel of natural snow underfoot. I work in corporate America all week, I don't want to ski there too.

 

[Vortex]

The Asc pass still seems to be availible. I bet it will go soon. www.allforonepass.com

 

[dmc]

I have no idea why people knock ASC.

Not sure if AZ has the bandwidth respond....

 

[ctenidae]

ASC resorts are perfect for their target demographic. Good for them.

I, however, am not in their target demographic.

 

[freeheelwilly]

I have no idea why people knock ASC.
Where else are you going to get the snowmaking, lodging, service, lifts and terrain in the east for $349.

The only other option you have is the threedom pass, no thanks.

The Waterville / Cranmore deal was pre-asc, during the whole LBO era.

Sugarbush got hiked because there were an insane amount of roadblocks to getting more on mountain beds. ASC really spruced that place up, fast lifts, slide brook connection, snowmaking, etc.

I hate the crowds, the extreme overdevelopment, how they groom too much, make snow on too much, etc. IMO MRG is the ideal mtn except I wish they did blow snow on a few runs for early and late. Let the trails ski natural. I enjoy dodging rocks and the feel of natural snow underfoot. I work in corporate America all week, I don't want to ski there too.

Well there we have it don't we? Essentially the two sides of this perennial debate. You're either in one camp or the other. Sometimes, as you grow older (or better :wink: ), you switch camps. There's no absolute "Right" or "Wrong" that covers everybody - just right or wrong for you. I tend to side with Skibum on this, FWIW. But if you like groomed trails you've got choices. But to me, skiing cut-up manky junk is second only to powder. Even better than spring corn. It seems like at alot of places, as soon as the freshies are tracked out they roll out the groomers. Keep 'em in the shed, I say! I love that bumpy cut up stuff.

 

[Vortex]

Freeheelwilly. Nice post. I prefer the less confrontational approach in general.
With kids and wanting to ski together as a family I like groomed terrain. RivercOil and Charlie have tried to take me out of my comfort zone. To each their own.

 

[dmc]

But to me, skiing cut-up manky junk is second only to powder. Even better than spring corn.

I agree about the chopped POW - but - I've found skiing the chopped up crud is a bit easier on snowboard and tele's...

So - I too - can see both sides...

Not sure if I totally agree about the corn though...
It's a tossup for me between corn and crud...

 

[WICKEDBUMPER]

ozskier wrote:
I have no idea why people knock ASC.

IMO they killed Killington. Before ASC, Killington catered to advanced skiers. now they cater to everyone but advanced skiers. They turned Bear's blacks into blues and God forbid they let a bump grow on more then 3 trials at the same time anymore. groom and blow snow everywhere so everyone can say they can ski/ride a black at Killington. the list goes on.
People who have skied Killington regularly pre ASC should be able to see the difference. Killington is just another resort now - it used to be special.

 

[Geoff]

ozskier wrote:
I have no idea why people knock ASC.

IMO they killed Killington. Before ASC, Killington catered to advanced skiers. now they cater to everyone but advanced skiers. They turned Bear's blacks into blues and God forbid they let a bump grow on more then 3 trials at the same time anymore. groom and blow snow everywhere so everyone can say they can ski/ride a black at Killington. the list goes on.
People who have skied Killington regularly pre ASC should be able to see the difference. Killington is just another resort now - it used to be special.

That about sums it up though Pres Smith did his part by adding too much uphill capacity and overuse of the chainsaw. Snowdon quad, Canyon quad, Superstar quad, and Bear triple converted into Bear Quad and Skye Peak quad. It turned what used to be a superb skiing surface into crowded, overgroomed, porcelain-surfaced McSkiing.

The K1 and Needles Eye "improvements" from ASC just made the problem worse.

I go back far enough that I remember Downdraft as the best glade skiing on the east coast and Big Dipper was a close second. East Fall used to have trees on it, too. Superstar was a narrow natural snow trail with tons of character. The only way you could get to them was a 4-seater slow gondola that rarely ran to the top, a double chair, or a Snowdon lift to the Glades triple. The liftlines were big at the bottom but the quality of the experience was superb.

 

[dmc]

I go back far enough that I remember Downdraft as the best glade skiing on the east coast and Big Dipper was a close second.

Yes - the good old days... :beer:

 

[Greg]

Da 'Loaf is crushing the others! :beer:

 

[ski_resort_observer]

One thing alot of you are not taking into account is the fact that a high speed D Quad, which most appreciate, will put many more people on the slopes/trails that you complain are too crowded.

If you praise ASC or any other resort for upgrading the lifts to HSDQ's and 6 packs don't complain about the crowded slopes.

Alot of people bash SR but put the Loaf on an almost MRG mythical status. Maybe it's not ASC maybe it's something else.

 

[skibum1321]

One thing alot of you are not taking into account is the fact that a high speed D Quad, which most appreciate, will put many more people on the slopes/trails that you complain are too crowded.

If you praise ASC or any other resort for upgrading the lifts to HSDQ's and 6 packs don't complain about the crowded slopes.

Alot of people bash SR but put the Loaf on an almost MRG mythical status. Maybe it's not ASC maybe it's something else.

I think that the ASC neglects the Loaf because it is so far away and is not a feasible day trip for many New Englanders. I believe that because of this, Sugarloaf has been able to escape many of the evils of the ASC. Sugarloaf is like the ASC's red headed step child and in this case Sugarloaf benefits immensely.

 

[Marc]

One thing alot of you are not taking into account is the fact that a high speed D Quad, which most appreciate, will put many more people on the slopes/trails that you complain are too crowded.

If you praise ASC or any other resort for upgrading the lifts to HSDQ's and 6 packs don't complain about the crowded slopes.

Alot of people bash SR but put the Loaf on an almost MRG mythical status. Maybe it's not ASC maybe it's something else.

Good point.

Obviously all ski resorts in NE (.... ah screw it... in North America) should only allow skiers/riders with AZ stickers on the hsq's.

Everyone else has to hike.

 

[WICKEDBUMPER]

I wish it were a crowd thing as to why I dont like K anymore. but it has nothing to do with crowds or uphill capacity for me. I'm not gonna be where the crowds are anyway. I can avoid them easy enough.
Its the ruining of Needles eye, Bear, and the old glades. Plus all the other trails that they sucked the challange right out of - pretty much the general emasculating of the whole place.

 

[dmc]

I wish it were a crowd thing as to why I dont like K anymore. but it has nothing to do with crowds or uphill capacity for me. I'm not gonna be where the crowds are anyway. I can avoid them easy enough.
Its the ruining of Needles eye, Bear, and the old glades. Plus all the other trails that they sucked the challange right out of - pretty much the general emasculating of the whole place.

Thats why I drive an hour north to Sugarbush now...

 

[Greg]

Bump.