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Fly vs Drive: Break even point

BenedictGomez

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He WAS CONFIRMED to have died of COVID19. THAT, you can easily search reports in English. I gave you the starting point. But if you already made up your mind, by all means discount it.

I mean, what's your point? He died in his 30s of coronavirus. So what? As I noted, his death is an outlier given very few in that age cohort die from COVID19, which we know because many people roughly that age have globally contracted the virus. I simply asked you to produce the data you're talking about that "young people are dying", and you couldnt do so.

Net/net, the point is, you are 100% wrong, coronavirus is generally not "killing the young" as you said. There is not a single confirmed infant death globally, and there is only 1 reported death < 10 years old globally that I am aware of. Deaths of people in their 20s, again, globally, are extremely low. South Korea is approaching 2,000 positive tests in people in their 20s, not a single patient has died.
 

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The point is, death rate for <50’s are FAR FROM ZERO!

But hey, you can always assume every one of those are “outliers”. Then you can conclude “there’s nothing to fear”. And you’re so convinced of it you want others to believe YOU ARE RIGHT!

I’m giving a different point of view. But hey, you declared I’m “100% WRONG”!

Fine. It’s up to others to draw their own conclusions, based on 2 internet peep neither of whom were infectious disease specialists now had any access to actual data! Perhaps they will find one of the two more believable because he declared the other “100% wrong” :roll:
 
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BenedictGomez

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The point is, death rate for <50’s are FAR FROM ZERO!

Death rate for < 50 is extremely low. Remarkably low actually. You have no idea what you're talking about.

You obviously do not have a science degree.
You obviously do not work in healthcare.

The world would be a better place right now if folks like you do not comment on coronavirus mortality.

South Korea is a modern healthcare nation with a robust data capture network & the most trusted COVID19 data which currently exists on the planet. They currently have 3,796 cases < 50, and only TWO deaths (data below). That is a 0.053% fatality rate, which is less than flu. Their death rate from age 30 to age 49 is 0.1%, which is very similar to flu. They have not had a single patient < 30 years old die.

This is a disease that is quite deadly to the elderly, the young and healthy? Not so much.

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You obviously don’t what YOU are talking about! That all I meed to say.

Unlike you, I believe you have just as much right to spill nonsense as any other internet warrior. You so called “knowledge” in science is just an illusion in your own mind. BTW, I do have a graduate degree in science, HARD science, not pseudoscience or voodoo science as many of the degrees these days are.

And as every REAL scientist knows, nothing can be gain without RAW data, which nobody has yet. You’re using mass media “data” to claim definitive conclusion. You can pretend as much as you like. You’re just another another talking head who’s screaming to be heard. Be my guest.
 

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There is a bunch of raw data I linked to you a couple days ago, showing extremely low mortality for anyone under ~70 and without underlying illness. You didn't seem receptive to it and still promoting a worst-case scenario. I can only assume you watch a lot of television.

Respectfully. This is not a fun topic for anyone.
 
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BenedictGomez

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You obviously don’t what YOU are talking about! That all I meed to say.

And as every REAL scientist knows, nothing can be gain without RAW data, which nobody has yet. You’re using mass media “data” to claim definitive conclusion. You can pretend as much as you like. You’re just another another talking head who’s screaming to be heard. Be my guest.

Your intellectual laziness while hurling insults at people is staggering.

But what's truly stunning, is you obviously haven't spent more than 5 minutes researching COVID19, yet you hurl insults freely. Though this is not as impressive as your stubbornness (as others on this board have pointed out over the years) when it's become quite clear you're obviously wrong.

I'm using Korean data directly from the KCDC, which I mathematically update every morning when it comes out.

I haven't posted Italian data (for several reasons), but I get it directly from Istituto Superiore di Sanita (Rome).

I've worked my entire career in healthcare for over 20 years, from direct patient care, to laboratory work, to Wall Street healthcare equity investing, to pharmaceutical finance. This sort of analysis & reading of medical research is literally the sort of **** I've done for a living.

But whatever, keep spouting off nonsense about how so many "young people" are dying from coronavirus even though (as of today) there has only been one single death in a patient under 50 years old in the 2nd largest hot spot on the planet (Italy), and only 2 deaths in patients under 50 years old in the 3rd largest hot spot on the planet (South Korea).

As I said, the world right now would be a safer, better, less panicked place if people like you left the commenting to people who are healthcare professionals.
 
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