Honestly, the application discusses the old double being removed and it seemed odd. But it makes sense in that they are saying that capacity to the summit had already been reduced.
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Tin Woodsman
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Note that the application actually references both lifts, with a focus on the HSQ/HS6 replacing the Summit Triple but also a quick reference to the possibility of a quad OR triple chair replacing the double doubles. I'm sure Attitash patrons would be thrilled if Vail walked back their announcement of a quad for that line.
I don't think Vail has announced anything; instead, a couple people found their NFS Application.
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I'm referring to the announcement they made in the Epic Lift Upgrade where they committed to replacing the double doubles with a quad. Given the reference to that possibly being a triple in this filing, that opens the door to a scenario where they switch course.
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It is quite possible this application predates the original Epic Lift Upgrade announcement. Remember, the Double Double line is plenty wide enough for a quad (the quad will actually be a narrower line than the D-D) so it is a simple swap out. For the Summit chair, they have to widen the cleared line corridor, quite a bit if they go 6 and still substantially for a quad. And all the upper line is fully on NFS land.
I can’t find a date on the application. Attitash needs to run something mid mountain all the time. Most all the intermediate terrain and all the beginner terrain beside the learning center triple is mid mountain. It’s a giant leap to go learning center to the triple. Hopefully they actually put in a new lift to replace double double. Something big enough to accommodate people with more then one small child. I do want a new lift to the summit but not a six pack, those trails are always steep and icy. Imagine 3x the people up there.
I actually feel bad for the gm at attitash that resigned. He was young and inexperienced, they should have tried to keep the old gm for a year in a consulting role. His downfall was the triple. U can’t trust that lift, to double down And make that the only lift running some days
. But how much is on vail and how much is on him. I’m guessing mostly vail. So the smart move for Greg was probably folding and getting the hell out. It’s too small of a town to take that kind of shit all day every day.
I actually feel bad for the gm at attitash that resigned. He was young and inexperienced, they should have tried to keep the old gm for a year in a consulting role. His downfall was the triple. U can’t trust that lift, to double down And make that the only lift running some days
. But how much is on vail and how much is on him. I’m guessing mostly vail. So the smart move for Greg was probably folding and getting the hell out. It’s too small of a town to take that kind of shit all day every day.
The application was dated September 2, 2021.I can’t find a date on the application. Attitash needs to run something mid mountain all the time. Most all the intermediate terrain and all the beginner terrain beside the learning center triple is mid mountain. It’s a giant leap to go learning center to the triple. Hopefully they actually put in a new lift to replace double double. Something big enough to accommodate people with more then one small child. I do want a new lift to the summit but not a six pack, those trails are always steep and icy. Imagine 3x the people up there.
I actually feel bad for the gm at attitash that resigned. He was young and inexperienced, they should have tried to keep the old gm for a year in a consulting role. His downfall was the triple. U can’t trust that lift, to double down And make that the only lift running some days
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Plot thickens...
A buddy of mine had the same thought.
I agree with you about the limited terrain available off the summit to handle a higher capacity lift.
My thought is they widen and neuter Tightrope. It's not that steep of a trail. Widening it could make it more of a blue like Northwest Passage vs the black it is today. It would be a shame as I enjoy that trail as it exists today. But only having Northwest Passage and Saco off the top isn't enough capacity for the volume of intermediate skiers a HSQ or Six would put up there.
machski
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My $$ would be on a quad as a six would require the line to be widened more than a 4 would. But if they get the wider clearing approved by the NFS, remember a Six can have the exact same capacity as a quad, just with greater carrier spacing. That gives more time between loadings/unloads and helps cutdown on slow/stops for misloads.
machski
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As an aside, I can still remember when LBO put in the Yankee. We were all like, what, a HSQ up that short of a line and we have to freeze on the summit triple? The answer was always that the Yankee line is not on NFS land and so they could toss that up without issue. The summit was constrained on runs as DHS has noted for a HSQ but more so was the NFS permitting. Something that at the time, LBO had zero experience with since this was his 2nd resort and SR is completely on private, non forest service lands.
I don't have an issue with the Yankee other than it's design using the Triple lift tower which probably is part of the reason why it has taken so long to plan and install a new summit lift. It just makes things more complicated.
But the Yankee itself makes sense. Attitash needs a mid mountain lift due to lack of terrain to spread people out up top. I suppose an argument could be made that the length is a bit short for a high speed chair at 3070 feet, but I'll take that over a fixed grip any day.
But the Yankee itself makes sense. Attitash needs a mid mountain lift due to lack of terrain to spread people out up top. I suppose an argument could be made that the length is a bit short for a high speed chair at 3070 feet, but I'll take that over a fixed grip any day.
It’s probably the NFS and an EIS that is/was the deterrent to replacing the Triple. Looks like Vail decided they had to deal with it regardless. The shared tower probably adds engineering issues and costs.
Not a Vail Resort, but this seems to depict what skiing at a Vail Resort is like this year:
Geoff
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That would mean they’re running water pumps and compressors. Couldn’t possibly be a Vail resort according to this thread. Stop with the fake news!
