What's your biggest weakness on the hill??

[chase]

Because if it's not on YouTube, it isn't reality, right? :lol:



Wow. You're really wrapped up in this whole carving thing. Where's the video of you carving "railroad tracks"? What do I search for on YouTube? :razz:

sorry no video of myself...hopefully that will change this season

 

[chase]

Bet your ass he did

OK i just watched a video of him. He carved most of the turn but there was still rotary in the end of his turns. Nothing against him he's better than i'll ever be but railroad tracks like the modern skis produce just aren't possible on those old school skis. Sorry.

 

[Greg]

chase - how old are you? Just curious.

 

[campgottagopee]

OK i just watched a video of him. He carved most of the turn but there was still rotary in the end of his turns. Nothing against him he's better than i'll ever be but railroad tracks like the modern skis produce just aren't possible on those old school skis. Sorry.

Easy there cowboy, no need to be sorry. There are soooooooo many skiers from years ago that carve, is there rotary??? Yes, bet there has to be do to all the weighting and unweighting that is needed to turn those babys. If you were to load up say a 210 cm "yellow sled" and not unload it, well your going for a ride. There has to be a "unweighting" or rotary move to get to the next ski so you don't break your leg. Look that up on u tube. I've always contended and always will that todays skis are like cheating compared to when many of us in here learned to ski. I'd love to see some modrn day "carvers" thrwon back a few years and just watch. Would be interesting to say the least. So my lil buckaroo, you are correct to a certain point that the "old school" skis can't be skied the same as todays because it's an apples to oranges comparison. Just sayin'

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

chase - how old are you? Just curious.

I think he's 18..because he's starting Penn State..good carving at Tussy..:smash:

 

[Vortex]

I give up. I think those old carving boards were miss -marketed as I miss remember them.

Ever seen a ski overload. That use to occur with too much weight on one ski while, yes carving.
Kind of hard to argue if you never used those type of skis.

True rails happen with better weight distribution these days.

In the day of old we use to be 80 to 90 % weight on the down hill ski. Geoff and I mentioned we both still are working to ballance that out. ie a weakness. We havethat weakness becasue that is what you use to do to carve.

 

[chase]

Easy there cowboy, no need to be sorry. There are soooooooo many skiers from years ago that carve, is there rotary??? Yes, bet there has to be do to all the weighting and unweighting that is needed to turn those babys. If you were to load up say a 210 cm "yellow sled" and not unload it, well your going for a ride. There has to be a "unweighting" or rotary move to get to the next ski so you don't break your leg. Look that up on u tube. I've always contended and always will that todays skis are like cheating compared to when many of us in here learned to ski. I'd love to see some modrn day "carvers" thrwon back a few years and just watch. Would be interesting to say the least. So my lil buckaroo, you are correct to a certain point that the "old school" skis can't be skied the same as todays because it's an apples to oranges comparison. Just sayin'

Thats that point I was trying to make, as the technology has changed the definition of carving has changed, well at least for me I don't know how the rest of you feel.

And Greg, GSS is correct. How old are you Greg?:-D

 

[chase]

I think he's 18..because he's starting Penn State..good carving at Tussy..:smash:

Have you ever skied at tussey? I might be down at blue mtn for a race in feb, maybe I'll see you there.

 

[deadheadskier]

Have you ever skied at tussey? I might be down at blue mtn for a race in feb, maybe I'll see you there.

oh snap, them's fightin' words :lol:

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

Have you ever skied at tussey? I might be down at blue mtn for a race in feb, maybe I'll see you there.

I've only been to State College in the fall back when my cousin went there. It's a great college town and apparently they have a nice Slalom/GS set for the race team. Blue mountain hosts college level racing for the mid-Atlantic conferance. The high speed quad goes right over the race course and the GS uses a solid 800 vert on Razors edge...with a Headwall start..moderate mid-section and a headwall finish..and sometimes scary icy. I wish they let mere Nastar skiers on the course.

Rutty..offset..icy race courses with a 20mph headwind..to me is more difficult than skiing a zipperline on a mogul course..

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

oh snap, them's fightin' words :lol:

hehehehe..and I practically live at Blue...and I love playing tourguide..on more than 30 trails although you can hit all of them in about 9 runs....doh

 

[chase]

I've only been to State College in the fall back when my cousin went there. It's a great college town and apparently they have a nice Slalom/GS set for the race team. Blue mountain hosts college level racing for the mid-Atlantic conferance. The high speed quad goes right over the race course and the GS uses a solid 800 vert on Razors edge...with a Headwall start..moderate mid-section and a headwall finish..and sometimes scary icy. I wish they let mere Nastar skiers on the course.

Rutty..offset..icy race courses with a 20mph headwind..to me is more difficult than skiing a zipperline on a mogul course..

Thanks...sounds like a nice course...maybe I can sneak you in next year...lol

 

[eastcoastpowderhound]

I did a quick you-tube search and could not find someone making pure carved turns, on straight skis, as the video I posted shows. Until I see a video of someone carving railroad tracks on straight skis I will continue to believe that you, Geoff and DHS have much more liberal views on what consists of carving than I do.

Definitions change, I have no doubt that when people raced on straight skis they considered themselves to be carving.

you're on your own here...I learned how to carve on a 216 downhill ski and spent a few years doing it on 207 GS skis before the first "carving skis" hit the market...full on RR tracks...takes a lot of hill and a lot of speed since its a longer radius turn, but you can make a true carved turn on a straight ski...just takes space, speed and skill.

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

This picture of me is from two seasons ago on Main Street at Blue mountain..I got a little too low..and nailed the camara man..AlpineZones own Ski9..mad Homer Simpson..doh..I need to find a shot of the aftermath..

 

[Beetlenut]

This picture of me is from two seasons ago on Main Street at Blue mountain..I got a little too low..and nailed the camara man..AlpineZones own Ski9..mad Homer Simpson..doh..I need to find a shot of the aftermath..

You sure that's not just a picture of you fallin?! :-D

Another difference between carving on straight vs shaped skis I think, is that shaped skis allow you to carve a tighter arc and not washout the tails. The old straight skis would still carve, just not that tight an arc. So the idea of carve has changed with the technology.

 

[o3jeff]

I would love to see some of these younger people try a old school pair of 200+ skis and see what they do on them.

 

[Beetlenut]

I would love to see some of these younger people try a old school pair of 200+ skis and see what they do on them.

Fall to the inside, get-up, fall to the inside, get-up, fall to the inside etc...

 

[eastcoastpowderhound]

I would love to see some of these younger people try a old school pair of 200+ skis and see what they do on them.

haha...and not a 200cm, those were bump skis...real men skied on 207s or 210s!

 

[Vortex]

Laugh i'm 5 foot 5 and I raced sl on 203's. I ski on 160 cm these days.

 

[campgottagopee]

haha...and not a 200cm, those were bump skis...real men skied on 207s or 210s!

True dat---when I was skiing full time I was on 210's 6 days a week