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I agree with Steve that the shtick gets a little old sometimes, but they're still the best thing out there, IMHO. I too would love to see another Epoch-esque movie come out.

I don't watch the big western/international movies nearly as much as Meathead's stuff because I'll probably never visit any of the spots featured. I can relate to the Meathead's movies because it's locations that I'm much more likely to see for myself.

+ 1. I get sick of the park stuff, but the music and humor makes up for that. I wish they would film at more places, and during other parts of the season. I read on that press release that the bulk of the movie is made in March :blink: This March sucked.
 

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+ 1. I get sick of the park stuff, but the music and humor makes up for that. I wish they would film at more places, and during other parts of the season. I read on that press release that the bulk of the movie is made in March :blink: This March sucked.
Agreed on the park stuff but I really enjoy the spirit of the urban stuff. Surprised that they don't go to more places, as TB mentioned. They seem to have found favorites for the major scenes and then throw in 20-30 seconds of some secondary places around the major scenes. I think they have only done one Mount Washington scene, and that was in Epoch. Maybe there was a short one in Schooled.

Filming in March seems likely due to their touring schedule. I commented a few years back that they missed some EPIC October's and it was generally agreed it was due to the film tour. As long as they got the February powder week, they are probably covered for powder. Otherwise, I hope the Chic Chocs faired better in March than New England :eek:
 

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As long as they got the February powder week, they are probably covered for powder.

that was some serious snow. storm totals were over 50" and it was pretty good snow too. lets not forget about december. that stuff was pure blower. best bday ive ever had.
 

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Filming in March seems likely due to their touring schedule.

I was thinking it might be due to the amount of sunlight available. It's probably easier to find favorable lighting for shooting video in March than January or February.
 

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Filming in March seems likely due to their touring schedule.

I was thinking it might be due to the amount of sunlight available. It's probably easier to find favorable lighting for shooting video in March than January or February.

If you read the article they try to do most of their filming in March because it is usually the most dependable month to get their powder shots. That reliance on March really screwed them up last year.
 

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If you read the article they try to do most of their filming in March because it is usually the most dependable month to get their powder shots. That reliance on March really screwed them up last year.

Read? I'm unfamiliar with this???
 

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Meatheads got out there during the early dumps in december for a few good days of pow skiing w/ limited base that should look pretty good. During that Feb. storm, there were 2 backcountry crews out, 3 days of filming in or around (backcountry in the notch that isn't lift accessible) Stowe, and another crew up at Jay. They also did a trip to Cannon again and the Loaf for some backcountry and were planning on hitting up saddleback but the weather turned on them and rained. March was a bummer. This year it was the new april, but they got some days up in Tuckerman's and Gulf of slides that should add some good big mountain footage with some cliff drops and sketchy lines. you'll just have to wait and see.....
 

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Glad to year there is finally a good selection of Mount Wash footage. For a east coast film crew with a lot of earned turn action, it has definitely been a noticeable omission in recent years.
 

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for my money, matchstick is the best producer going. everyone else is playing for second place.
 

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http://www.newschoolers.com/web/cont.../news_id/2767/

ishovelsnow posted it.

I see that they are going back up to the Chic Chocs. This will be the third outing...and the second one in a row. I know that the weather sucked, but can't we try somewhere else?

I was saying that I was unfamiliar with the concept of reading. I saw the above post and skimmed it. Obviously my lame joke was way too low brow for a place like this...
 

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As for the Chic Chocs, it is the third time up there. I think they see chic chocs/newfoundland as their "alaska". Alaska and BC get played in every ski movie every year and since the meatheads only do EC, its chic chocs and newfie for them. They had plans to go to northern labrador too but plug got pulled due to some budget issues (prob would have been the end of their budget...then some). But it's still on the radar for them in future years, as are some other places up there. Tough when it requires a bunch of plane rides to the middle of nowhere (nain, labrador), then a boatride for another 75-100 miles to get dropped off in some remote fjords. Not a cheap endeavor for them. or anyone for that matter.

I hope people here like the chic choc footage nonetheless. They still want to hit it right when there is lower avy danger. Every time they have been there, there has been moderate-high avy danger so they couldn't ski/film the super exposed stuff with real steep and cliffy terrain.

Although we only got a few days in the whites, they really want to do more, but the weather windows (as you all know) are pretty short up there. I think we were lucky to get hit up the prezis on two fantastic days though. Their footage from tucks in epoch and schooled is great footage and they got more of it in epoch than we did this year (probably) but I think you will notice that the lines skied this time included some decent cliff drops and some crazy exposed sections that a lot of people will appreciate. There is one section that stacey made look easy but both the snow rangers I was standing with almost shit themself over what he skied (the bottom half of the line is in the trailer).

I do hope they can diversify a little more, especially with the backcountry stuff, and I know they want to. Anyone have any suggestions of other places they haven't seen in the films that would be good? They already have been trying to get the 'dacks for the last few years and every time they have it on the calender it rains or something, and labrador and other points north are also on the radar.
 

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I do hope they can diversify a little more, especially with the backcountry stuff, and I know they want to. Anyone have any suggestions of other places they haven't seen in the films that would be good?
They really haven't even scratched the surface for BC in New England in their films. While hearing Tucks and GoS made this year's film is good news, that is really just the tip of the ice burg for the Presidential range and they are limited only by what fills in and their desire to slug out long approaches for good lines. Though even lots of Mount Washington stuff isn't too bad for approaches. It is amazing the lack of Presidential footage the films have recently considering last year's segment on Crawford Notch, LOL.

The classic CCC BC runs have all been shunned. I understand first hand that CCC trails don't exactly get the blood flowing for the most part except for isolated sections of specific trails. But it is still a pretty big omission from the east coast scene. Hopefully they get down to the Thunderbolt for the anniversary race this coming season.

Fun seeing them hit the Chic Chocs but it seems like they always get skunked when they head north of the boarder. Surprising they are going for mid-winter conditions and not spring conditions. Guess they are too busy filming their annual marketing feature for Sunday River. :eek: :blink: :lol: Come to think of it, have they ever featured any spring skiing BC in any of their films? I can't remember any but I remember them getting skunked in the mid-winter BC more often than not. Think Spring!! LOL.
 

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They really haven't even scratched the surface for BC in New England in their films. While hearing Tucks and GoS made this year's film is good news, that is really just the tip of the ice burg for the Presidential range and they are limited only by what fills in and their desire to slug out long approaches for good lines. Though even lots of Mount Washington stuff isn't too bad for approaches. It is amazing the lack of Presidential footage the films have recently considering last year's segment on Crawford Notch, LOL.

The classic CCC BC runs have all been shunned. I understand first hand that CCC trails don't exactly get the blood flowing for the most part except for isolated sections of specific trails. But it is still a pretty big omission from the east coast scene. Hopefully they get down to the Thunderbolt for the anniversary race this coming season.

Fun seeing them hit the Chic Chocs but it seems like they always get skunked when they head north of the boarder. Surprising they are going for mid-winter conditions and not spring conditions. Guess they are too busy filming their annual marketing feature for Sunday River. :eek: :blink: :lol: Come to think of it, have they ever featured any spring skiing BC in any of their films? I can't remember any but I remember them getting skunked in the mid-winter BC more often than not. Think Spring!! LOL.


They know that what they have skied up there is very minimal, in terms of what is available. There is a ton of stuff to ski up and they do want to hit up some more, but I think one would trivialize some of the obstacles to filming up there by saying that they are only limited by desire to slog it out or what is filled in. I'm sure we all know, yet sometimes forget in the middle of summer, what some of the other obstacles may be. First and foremost weather. I don't think I really have to explain that one. It effects both the ability to get good camera angles due to visibility as well as whether athletes and filmmakers can stay up there in exposed locations for extended periods of time. Second, and I think this goes with weather, is the very real avalanche danger. disregarding avalanche danger in teh Whites is bad practice, bad publicity, and most of all, dangerous for all those involved, including any rescue teams that would be assembled to deal with the aftermath (iv'e been personally involved with over 10 SARS in the whites am aware of some of the dangers and obstacles associated with a large rescue effort of that magnitude). Finally, time constraints. they are usually constrained to weekends to film because most of the backcountry guys have full-time jobs or are full-time students. Another limiting factor.

But I think your point is otherwise well-taken. diversity in whites would be great. My own experience also includes much more than just GOS and Tucks. One other concern also relates to publicity. I have recieved personal e-mails from other backcountry skiers from up there who are concerned with what would happen to some of their favorite shots if we started filming and documenting places like the Ammy, GG, Oaks, Kings, Lincoln's throat, lafayette snowfields, etc. The list goes on. Though I don't think this is a major obstacle to them actually filming those places, they probably wouldn't say where it is.

I think Thunderbolt is a really cool idea. My grandmother used to go watch those races growing up and could be a cool little segment in a film. especially if one dressed up old-school. hmmmm, not a bad idea.

Sunday river isn't a huge constraint because they have multiple cinematographers and can easily split them up.

Last year's chic choc trip wasn't a bust at all. They skied some of the deepest pow ever in meathead footage. It just wasn't all open high exposure stuff. I think Geoff and Rooster allude to that in the NS article someone posted a link to.

Spring skiing is good and the GOS day, although in mid march, is spring corn footage.

Only problem with spring (and they tried to film 2 other days this spring in the whites) is that there are limited opportunities for hucks. Usually the cliffs, with the solar absorbing dark rocks, are the first things to melt out. But they are interersted in still doing some spring stuff, like I said, but they probably wouldn't want to have all spring footage.

CC trail stuff would probably be in the extras.
Overall, there is a lot of potential in teh Whites, like RivercOil said. i've worked 5 seasons in the whites cartaking huts and such and get excited just thinking of all the potential spots up there that haven't been hit. I'm sure they will be skied sometime, and that makes it all the more exciting for the years to come. I mean, we wouldn't want to honestly ski ALL of it in one or two years, or it would be played.

But I think everything that was mentioned does have an even greater value. To hear that this is the type of skiing that people want to see more of may help them move some priorities or just push that much harder for this type of footage. Although I've said some of the stuff is "on the radar" the size of the blip does vary. Good suggestions. Keep 'em going. Might be good suggestions for any other start-up film company too!
 

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I would think there is a lot of BC terrain in the Adirondacks that could be captured as well.......
 

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personally, i'm looking forward to the Magic Forest segment... ever been to that place? LJ, will and Andy probably found 1,000 things to jib there.
 

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They know that what they have skied up there is very minimal, in terms of what is available. There is a ton of stuff to ski up and they do want to hit up some more, but I think one would trivialize some of the obstacles to filming up there by saying that they are only limited by desire to slog it out or what is filled in. I'm sure we all know, yet sometimes forget in the middle of summer, what some of the other obstacles may be. First and foremost weather. I don't think I really have to explain that one. It effects both the ability to get good camera angles due to visibility as well as whether athletes and filmmakers can stay up there in exposed locations for extended periods of time. Second, and I think this goes with weather, is the very real avalanche danger. disregarding avalanche danger in teh Whites is bad practice, bad publicity, and most of all, dangerous for all those involved, including any rescue teams that would be assembled to deal with the aftermath (iv'e been personally involved with over 10 SARS in the whites am aware of some of the dangers and obstacles associated with a large rescue effort of that magnitude). Finally, time constraints. they are usually constrained to weekends to film because most of the backcountry guys have full-time jobs or are full-time students. Another limiting factor.
My bad on not clarifying my comments. My Mount Washington comments were more geared towards spring skiing. Obviously they aren't going to get powder shots skiing down the headwall. But that BC is best in the spring any ways. Weather is not as much of an issue when it comes to spring skiing. April and May seem to average at least 25-33% nice weekend days with an occasional Bluebird. Chances are better if you can snag a quick vacation day on short notice. I work so I know how it goes. But in the past few years, with exception of injury years, I have averaged three bluebird days without trying hard in the spring. So my comments were based on my rather limited experience and not having gone out of my way to max my spring days. I imagine the biggest issue here would be coordinating a lot of different people on the same day. But like I mentioned, goodness knows how many great spring days can be had April-May on weekends. But also, they are usually busy in the spring filming at the parks.... :stirpot:

As far as location, they don't have to name drop every place they ski. Northern Presidentials couls suffice for Adams ravines. Mount Washington could suffice for Great Gulf. But hell with secrecy in NE BC... take a look at TimeForTuckerman.com Trip Reports. The word is out and that is great for the scene in general. I think most people watching these films aren't skiing BC and those that are probably either don't have the experience to tackle some of those tougher locations or already know about them. It seems NE BC generally breaks down into those that just bought touring bindings and don't use them or are only just starting and those that are die hards that either have or could easily get any beta needed. Once you start looking at Google Maps and craning your neck to see gullies while driving... well, there is only so much the imagination can tackle before you start getting desperate. That said, there are a few big secrets still in the bag and that is fine. I think most people are more concerned with protecting mid-winter powder tree shots than spring corn BC locations which are few and far between and generally easily seen from the roads. Only long approaches keep lesser traveled by places quiet. But vacation days are for BC skiing the busier places.
 
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My bad on not clarifying my comments. My Mount Washington comments were more geared towards spring skiing. Obviously they aren't going to get powder shots skiing down the headwall. But that BC is best in the spring any ways. Weather is not as much of an issue when it comes to spring skiing. April and May seem to average at least 25-33% nice weekend days with an occasional Bluebird. Chances are better if you can snag a quick vacation day on short notice. I work so I know how it goes. But in the past few years, with exception of injury years, I have averaged three bluebird days without trying hard in the spring. So my comments were based on my rather limited experience and not having gone out of my way to max my spring days. I imagine the biggest issue here would be coordinating a lot of different people on the same day. But like I mentioned, goodness knows how many great spring days can be had April-May on weekends. But also, they are usually busy in the spring filming at the parks.... :stirpot:

As far as location, they don't have to name drop every place they ski. Northern Presidentials couls suffice for Adams ravines. Mount Washington could suffice for Great Gulf. But hell with secrecy in NE BC... take a look at TimeForTuckerman.com Trip Reports. The word is out and that is great for the scene in general. I think most people watching these films aren't skiing BC and those that are probably either don't have the experience to tackle some of those tougher locations or already know about them. It seems NE BC generally breaks down into those that just bought touring bindings and don't use them or are only just starting and those that are die hards that either have or could easily get any beta needed. Once you start looking at Google Maps and craning your neck to see gullies while driving... well, there is only so much the imagination can tackle before you start getting desperate. That said, there are a few big secrets still in the bag and that is fine. I think most people are more concerned with protecting mid-winter powder tree shots than spring corn BC locations which are few and far between and generally easily seen from the roads. Only long approaches keep lesser traveled by places quiet. But vacation days are for BC skiing the busier places.


Yeah dude, I agree. They were talking about giving generic terms to places like "the presidentials" or whatever, but it seems you still can't please everyone. I'm a bit embarrassed to admit but we tried to head up the auto road (I know, I know) but it was only open 3/4 of the way up. We were planning on hiking up the rest of the way to get to GG but they wouldn't let us hike up the closed portion due to some construction. By the time we got back down to the bottom after trying ot finagle our way up, it was too late to drive around to the otherside of the mountain to get up there to film. wasted day. oh well.
 
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