Relatable ski porn?

[Sparky]

We have probably discussed this before, but I can find a resent thread so here goes.

Ski porn is one of the ways I survive the summer. I have an extinctive collection that includes Warren Miller, Meatheads, Steep, etc. During my recent viewings I have noticed that the more recent films seem to be all big lines, cliffs, and park stuff. All well and good, but after a while it gets a little difficult to relate to a 12 year old jumping over a school bus backwards with his pants around his ankles. I’m not trying to say this isn’t good stuff, and we need to get the kids into skiing for the sake of the industry, but isn’t there some ski porn out there that would be interesting for those of us that have passed puberty.

Questions;

1. Should ski porn include “relatable” footage?

2. If it’s all cliffs, parks and big lines will newbies be turned off thinking that the “good stuff” is unobtainable?

3. What would constitute “relatable” footage and are there any examples of it out there?

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

You make a good point. After awhile I just can't watch kids getting big air doing tricks. I'd rather watch skiers skiing big lines heli-skiing or something like that.

 

[wa-loaf]

I think most of the Meatheads is pretty accessible. I watch them and think "I can ski that" (not counting the park/urban scenes). Not so much for the TGR/Matchstick/Warren Miller stuff.

 

[deadheadskier]

We have probably discussed this before, but I can find a resent thread so here goes.

Ski porn is one of the ways I survive the summer. I have an extinctive collection that includes Warren Miller, Meatheads, Steep, etc. During my recent viewings I have noticed that the more recent films seem to be all big lines, cliffs, and park stuff. All well and good, but after a while it gets a little difficult to relate to a 12 year old jumping over a school bus backwards with his pants around his ankles. I’m not trying to say this isn’t good stuff, and we need to get the kids into skiing for the sake of the industry, but isn’t there some ski porn out there that would be interesting for those of us that have passed puberty.

Questions;

1. Should ski porn include “relatable” footage?

2. If it’s all cliffs, parks and big lines will newbies be turned off thinking that the “good stuff” is unobtainable?

3. What would constitute “relatable” footage and are there any examples of it out there?

I don't think it's a recent phenomenon that ski films show Big Lines etc. The older movies did focus a lot on 'extreme skiing' as it was called. Though WM would also sometimes have a section on intermediate level powder skiing and a focus on an eastern area that didn't show much in the way of trees, but that was more because of how relatively unknown tree skiing was back in the 80's to Joe public.

As to question number 2. I think people still want to watch certain things even if they know it's unobtainable. I aspire to learn how to surf someday. I know I will never consider doing the following, but it's still cool as hell to watch.

I think most of the Meatheads is pretty accessible. I watch them and think "I can ski that" (not counting the park/urban scenes). Not so much for the TGR/Matchstick/Warren Miller stuff.

This would be the answer to number 3. Part of the reason why I like meathead films the best is because I DO find most of the material accessible and often times with Stowe footage, places I've skied. Though not the park stuff. My high flying off table top days ended a decade ago. As fun as that is, it's just not worth it to me to crash from 15-20 feet up in the air and potentially end my season.

 

[severine]

I agree with wa-loaf. One of the reasons why I enjoy the Meatheads films is that what they show feels attainable. At least, the non-park stuff. I watched "Lost & Found" and "Soul Purpose" the other night and while they're interesting, I find my mind wandering a lot. I look at it and think "yeah, not in a million years." It's cool and all but not attainable and so I lose interest.

 

[ta&idaho]

I think homemade videos posted here, on epicski and TGR are your best bet. You have to spend some time sifting, but there is some pretty sweet video footage out there, and a good chunk of it these days is hi-def. I wish commercial ski films were more "relatable," but I don't see that being the mass market. Fortunately, technology has made amateur footage more impressive.

 

[Sky]

I think homemade videos posted here, on epicski and TGR are your best bet.

I think it was AndyZee who made that Cannon Vid about two or three years ago. I keep that link....for just such an occasion!

 

[ta&idaho]

I think it was AndyZee who made that Cannon Vid about two or three years ago. I keep that link....for just such an occasion!

If anyone has links to some particularly good footage, let's see 'em. New job means AZ and streaming video at work again.

 

[Puck it]

I think it was AndyZee who made that Cannon Vid about two or three years ago. I keep that link....for just such an occasion!

Link it, please.

 

[2knees]

If anyone has links to some particularly good footage, let's see 'em. New job means AZ and streaming video at work again.

maybe you've seen these, but they are my two favorites i've seen on here.






and no, they arent sundown or even bumps. just powbmps showing us how its really done.....

 

[powbmps]

Thanks 2knees. "How to not stick a landing." :lol:

maybe you've seen these, but they are my two favorites i've seen on here.

and no, they arent sundown or even bumps. just powbmps showing us how its really done.....

 

[speden]

I caught a little bit of a flick called "Heli-Skiing: Livin' the Dream" on high def cable. I think it was shot in western Canada.

In the parts I saw they weren't heli skiing on super steep terrain like you see in most ski porn. Instead the lines were down wide open mountains with pretty mellow pitch, and no one was jumping off cliffs or catching air. So it really looked like stuff that a lot of people could handle, and actually it looked like a heck of a lot of fun. Probably the usual extreme ski porn scares people off from even considering heli skiing, but it looked like almost whatever your skill level, they'd find you a slope you could enjoy with untouched powder and lots of vertical. I was telling one of my boys, if we get a lot better, maybe we could do that someday.

 

[Puck it]

I caught a little bit of a flick called "Heli-Skiing: Livin' the Dream" on high def cable. I think it was shot in western Canada.

In the parts I saw they weren't heli skiing on super steep terrain like you see in most ski porn. Instead the lines were down wide open mountains with pretty mellow pitch, and no one was jumping off cliffs or catching air. So it really looked like stuff that a lot of people could handle, and actually it looked like a heck of a lot of fun. Probably the usual extreme ski porn scares people off from even considering heli skiing, but it looked like almost whatever your skill level, they'd find you a slope you could enjoy with untouched powder and lots of vertical. I was telling one of my boys, if we get a lot better, maybe we could do that someday.

Weigle World is the operation. I am going in the next couple of years to AK for a trip and heli-skiing. The also have packages where you ski in the morning then fly fish in the afternoon.

 

[marcski]

I'm not sure about the rest of you, but I don't want to see some old fat guys skiing groomers when I rent/buy/watch a ski movie. I want to see well-trained and toned athletes that ski big.....lines, mountains and terrain...things that I would do and things I wouldn't do...It is entertaining to see the limits pushed when watching so-called "professionals".

What I can't stand.....this is going to make me sound old (older than I really am) is the damn music on skiing movies. Awful. Where's the old school funk!

 

[ta&idaho]

I caught a little bit of a flick called "Heli-Skiing: Livin' the Dream" on high def cable. I think it was shot in western Canada.

In the parts I saw they weren't heli skiing on super steep terrain like you see in most ski porn. Instead the lines were down wide open mountains with pretty mellow pitch, and no one was jumping off cliffs or catching air. So it really looked like stuff that a lot of people could handle, and actually it looked like a heck of a lot of fun. Probably the usual extreme ski porn scares people off from even considering heli skiing, but it looked like almost whatever your skill level, they'd find you a slope you could enjoy with untouched powder and lots of vertical. I was telling one of my boys, if we get a lot better, maybe we could do that someday.

You might try cat-skiing. That fits the bill at a much cheaper price point. I'm always stumping for the mountain where I grew up skiing, which has a great cat-skiing operation: http://www.brundage.com/the-mountain/snow-cat-adventures/. I also read recently about how Powder Mountain in Utah lets you sample both cat- and heli-skiing on an a-la-carte basis: http://travel.nytimes.com/2009/03/20/travel/escapes/20powder.html?pagewanted=1&8dpc.

 

[wa-loaf]

I also read recently about how Powder Mountain in Utah lets you sample both cat- and heli-skiing on an a-la-carte basis: http://travel.nytimes.com/2009/03/20/travel/escapes/20powder.html?pagewanted=1&8dpc.

A buddy went to Powder last year. He wanted to do the heli skiing, but said they way over booked and went with the cat skiing. Said he had 4 times as many runs as the folks waiting for the heli.

 

[ta&idaho]

A buddy went to Powder last year. He wanted to do the heli skiing, but said they way over booked and went with the cat skiing. Said he had 4 times as many runs as the folks waiting for the heli.

Yeah, if you're specifically not looking for intense terrain, cat-skiing has to be a better bet.

How'd your buddy like Powder overall? My friends who migrated to Utah after high school have always raved about Powder and Snowbasin.

 

[wa-loaf]

He loved it. He lives in Denver and I went out and skied with him last March. This season we're going to SL where another college buddy lives. Hopefully we can get a day in up there.

I read somewhere that Ogden has a bell they ring in town if Powder and Snowbasin get 6 or more inches of snow.

 

[Sky]

Link it, please.

http://www.2skierz.com/killingtonaccess/SkiFlix/

it's the Cannon.wmv.

I don't know if the link works or not/ Sorry. Office firewall blocks it.

AndyZee should have the original. Marc was one of the participants. He may have access.

I was just fortunate to enjoy the familiar terrain, the music...and the fantasy of skiing.

Sky

 

[x10003q]

I would love to see more blooper movies. Warren Miller used to include some clips in his movies or maybe he made a bloopers only movie (I can't remember). Usually it is some beginners trying to get off a chair or trying to stop. Even seeing the bad landings from the pros is interesting to me.