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Tiger Woods in Car Crash

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Tiger will no doubt retreat further into himself , this behavior was artfully conditioned since Earl started his mind control project 33 yrs ago .

As others have said, this case is different from garden variety adultery on Many levels . When you make huge $$$ in the public domain and willfully market your BRAND as something other than what it really is , you are OWNED by that melieu .

So given the secretive , serial , reckless and almost cloistered hypocrisy that has Finally played out in the public domain it is absolutely no surprise that this story has legs .

An epic pr fiasco that will become textbook classic "how NOT to manage a meltdown"
 

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You really think he is going to play. I don't think he will play next year. Can you hear the jeers coming from Mickelson's fans. Happy Gilmore-ish.

I guarentee that he'll play and that the rest of the PGA Tour wants him to play. Tiger hands down is responsible for a great deal of the $$ that the players on tour play for week in and week out, and in events where Tiger plays vs. events where he doesn't, there's usually about a 50% difference in TV viewership (if anything that would likely increase in atleast the 1st handfull of events he plays in this year). The tour needs Tiger, and I'm guessing that the golf course more than ever will be his sanctuary in the coming months.

As for the "Happy Gilmore effect", having been to a number of PGA Tour events where all the big names have been playing. 99.9% of the fans are polite and respectfull while the player is swinging/making contact. I doubt that will change. Now right after the club hits the ball, well that might be a different story.
 

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Tiger will no doubt retreat further into himself , this behavior was artfully conditioned since Earl started his mind control project 33 yrs ago .

As others have said, this case is different from garden variety adultery on Many levels . When you make huge $$$ in the public domain and willfully market your BRAND as something other than what it really is , you are OWNED by that melieu .

So given the secretive , serial , reckless and almost cloistered hypocrisy that has Finally played out in the public domain it is absolutely no surprise that this story has legs .

An epic pr fiasco that will become textbook classic "how NOT to manage a meltdown"


This is just another example of a child prodigy being controlled and ending up all f'ed up. I always thought it was weird when he was younger and all he was doing was playing golf. Just my thoughts.
 

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Tiger will no doubt retreat further into himself , this behavior was artfully conditioned since Earl started his mind control project 33 yrs ago .

As others have said, this case is different from garden variety adultery on Many levels . When you make huge $$$ in the public domain and willfully market your BRAND as something other than what it really is , you are OWNED by that melieu .

So given the secretive , serial , reckless and almost cloistered hypocrisy that has Finally played out in the public domain it is absolutely no surprise that this story has legs .

An epic pr fiasco that will become textbook classic "how NOT to manage a meltdown"


I'm not so sure about that Warp. To the media and the public it may seem like this is a lesson in "what not to do." To Tiger though this may be what he needs. Tiger appears atleast to be a person who plans things out, taking into account a ton of details and variables before he does things (just like he does on the golf course). This is (remaining out of sight, with no comment on things) exactly what most that have followed him and have seen how he handles situations (okay maybe not situations like this, but in general) have seen him act since he was a junior phenom winning 3 straight US Junior Amateurs back in the early 90's.

Also, historically, with the exception of last weeks tournament at Sherwood Country Club outside of LA where he was the "host", this time of year he always "lays low" and usually doesn't play between now and early February, with the exception of maybe 1 or 2 events on the European Tour.

My guess is we'll have some type of written press release in the coming weeks about will he/won't he and Elin be getting a divorce/seperating/staying together, then he may very well make is return to public/golf at a European Tour event where he has a bit more control over his media obligations(and generally smaller crowds), before he makes his PGA Tour return in February. As much as he probably hates the media circus that his life has become, he also wants that record of most majors that Jack Nicklaus holds, and he's gotta play to do that. What he might choose to skip next year though is The Ryder Cup, that wouldn't suprise me much at all.
 

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I think this will all play out and evetually will just be a footnote in his career; provided he still remains a top notch golfer. Agree or disagree...I just think that's the way it is. This is the topic dejour in the media right now. People will eventually get tired of it and move on. Look at this way...at least we finally stopped hearing about "John and Kate plus 8". A good thing in my book. IMHO.
 

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I think this will all play out and evetually will just be a footnote in his career; provided he still remains a top notch golfer. Agree or disagree...I just think that's the way it is. This is the topic dejour in the media right now. People will eventually get tired of it and move on. Look at this way...at least we finally stopped hearing about "John and Kate plus 8". A good thing in my book. IMHO.

Excellent viewpoint.

The Tiger thing is a circus.
 

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I think this will all play out and evetually will just be a footnote in his career; provided he still remains a top notch golfer. Agree or disagree...I just think that's the way it is. This is the topic dejour in the media right now. People will eventually get tired of it and move on. Look at this way...at least we finally stopped hearing about "John and Kate plus 8". A good thing in my book. IMHO.

I still don't know who John or Kate are, or why anyone gives a crap about them? :dunce:
 

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Any Surfers in the house?

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I still don't know who John or Kate are, or why anyone gives a crap about them? :dunce:

Yeah, I'm with you on why people care about that.

Here's the cliffs:

Fertility drugs, 8 kids, show on TLC, lots of money earned, parents get divorced, media circus, people stop caring..........."Where are they now?" story on FoxNews 10 years from now.
 

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Yeah, I'm with you on why people care about that.

Here's the cliffs:

Fertility drugs, 8 kids, show on TLC, lots of money earned, parents get divorced, media circus, people stop caring..........."Where are they now?" story on FoxNews 10 years from now.



I think the bigger media circus question about this "made for TV family" trainwreck is a) how many of the 8 kids will end up in therapy b) How many of the 8 kids will have been arrested for alcohol and/or drug related reasons by the time their 21 and c) how many of the 8 will end up with naked pics of themselves all over the net at some point in the future???? So sad, but in many ways, so true :eek:

And don't even get me started on the Duggars and their 18 or 19 kids and then the coup de gras has to be the octomom debacle :eek: :smash:

When will these uber shallow, totally narciscistic parents realize that a child is there for one to love and raise, NOT use as a springboard to becoming a possible reality TV star!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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I think the bigger media circus question about this "made for TV family" trainwreck is a) how many of the 8 kids will end up in therapy b) How many of the 8 kids will have been arrested for alcohol and/or drug related reasons by the time their 21 and c) how many of the 8 will end up with naked pics of themselves all over the net at some point in the future???? So sad, but in many ways, so true :eek:

And don't even get me started on the Duggars and their 18 or 19 kids and then the coup de gras has to be the octomom debacle :eek: :smash:

When will these uber shallow, totally narciscistic parents realize that a child is there for one to love and raise, NOT use as a springboard to becoming a possible reality TV star!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok, I don't follow mainstream media, this is all news to me. My only question is, how do they PAY for these kids?. I smell a rat. Pretty extravagent house and possessions. The FAQ about how they pay for it is quite elusive. I don't buy the story that he buys used. A custom salad bar awning with their name on it? Used? Hmm. Lots of links to buy books. Are they trust fund babies? Extortion? Sympathy? Charity Case? Welfare? What is it?
 
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Ok, I don't follow mainstream media, this is all news to me. My only question is, how do they PAY for these kids?. Pretty extravagent house. Are they trust fund babies? Extortion? Sympathy? Charity Case? Welfare? What is it?

Reality TV star.

Big money I guess.
 

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Ok, I don't follow mainstream media, this is all news to me. My only question is, how do they PAY for these kids?. I smell a rat. Pretty extravagent house and possessions. The FAQ about how they pay for it is quite elusive. I don't buy the story that he buys used. A custom salad bar awning with their name on it? Used? Hmm. Lots of links to buy books. Are they trust fund babies? Extortion? Sympathy? Charity Case? Welfare? What is it?

Tax exemption as a religious organization. Seriously- I think they own a handful of businesses and rental properties, and it's all owned by their church. Which may really be their church. As in, they own it. And probably pay rent to themselves. Tax free.
 

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I never followed the Accenture consulting advertisements.

To the following they formerly associated with TW:
"It's what you do next that counts"
"Thre road to high performance isn't always paved"
"Opportunity isn't always obvious"
"We know what it takes to be a Tiger"
 
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