The Most Important Resort Improvement for the Summer of 2010

[dmc]

Oh boy its the grammar police. License and registration please....

Opinion police as well...

 

[Tin Woodsman]

Oh boy its the grammar police. License and registration please....

They should be easy enough to find - right next to the thesaurus you threatened to break out in the post I was responding to.

I love that your participation in this discussion has now boiled down to bitching about the grammar police. Care to continue weighing on on Sugarbush's misplaced investment dollars?

 

[dmc]

as andrec says, the new chair at hunter is big, but not as big as bringing back a new area from the dead

I disagree..

There's probably a reason those areas are dead.. I'll take a new chair at Hunter over the reopening of Cortina Valley down the road any day...

Just my opinion...

 

[Tin Woodsman]

I disagree..

There's probably a reason those areas are dead.. I'll take a new chair at Hunter over the reopening of Cortina Valley down the road any day...

Just my opinion...

From the perspective of a Hunter local, how big of a deal is the new 6-pack? Does it's installation, and the plans for a HSQ on the West Side next year give you concern regarding snow surfaces or trail crowding?

 

[dmc]

From the perspective of a Hunter local, how big of a deal is the new 6-pack? Does it's installation, and the plans for a HSQ on the West Side next year give you concern regarding snow surfaces or trail crowding?

It's huge!!!

No I'm not worried about trail crowding..

 

[Tin Woodsman]

It's huge!!!

No I'm not worried about trail crowding..

Why and why not? I'm just not familiar enough with Hunter to understands the impacts, or lack thereof.

 

[dmc]

Because if you space the chairs out enough it's close to the same uphill capacity..

And the West side chair is supposed to come with a couple new trails..

And the old quad was dying.. So this it good...

 

[andrec10]

I disagree..

There's probably a reason those areas are dead.. I'll take a new chair at Hunter over the reopening of Cortina Valley down the road any day...

Just my opinion...

How bout Hunter buy Cortina and make it one Huge Park! Keep the brat kiddies over there!

 

[Tin Woodsman]

Because if you space the chairs out enough it's close to the same uphill capacity.

I didn't know they'd announced that. Good stuff.

And the West side chair is supposed to come with a couple new trails..

Didn't know that either. Must be gratifying to see for loyalists who have waited a long time for both of those upgrades.

 

[AdironRider]

You brought it up Tin, just saying. Apparently that means I boiled down to it. Get over yourself. I have my opinion, you have yours.

 

[dmc]

How bout Hunter buy Cortina and make it one Huge Park! Keep the brat kiddies over there!

I like Cortina empty...

We snowmobile up and snowboard down...

 

[Tin Woodsman]

You brought it up Tin, just saying. Apparently that means I boiled down to it. Get over yourself. I have my opinion, you have yours.

This statement gets to the heart of what makes the Internet beautiful. You can make completely baseless claims that are proven to be categorically incorrect in every fashion, and then just chalk it up to a difference in opinion.

Sugarbush is focused on glitzy real-estate!

Oops, there's no residential in the new buildings - just critical skier services.

There's no tents!

Oh, what's that? A picture of the tent in question? Well it's just my opinion is all.

Pathetic.

 

[AdironRider]

Thats the nicest freaking tent you or I have ever seen. I still think base area improvement should be done after on hill improvements. You can call me pathetic, insult my lack of grammar on an internet forum (oh my!), my intelligence, the list goes on, but I dont give a damn.

To please AdironRider I want the best damn on snow experience before anything else gets a dime spent on it. Get it? You dont like it, so resort to picking apart ever single thing I have to say about it. Bullshit. All Sugarbush has done has spent money on phase 1 (massive real estate development) and now phase 2, which is amenities for said real estate development, which in my mind is just a direct extension of real estate. This is my opinion, and I can say whatever I want. Deal with it. Ill keep on keeping on, and Im sure it will keep on pissing you off. Its kinda fun really. Ive had a good day, pissed off threecy and you. Who's next, time will tell. I call it like I want.

I boot up in the car and never spend a second or one dime in a resorts base facilities, naturally Im going to see anything else as a waste of money. You dont. Am I the regular customer, of course not, but I can say anything I damn well please on the internet, much to your chagrin. Boo hoo, some made up internet persona thinks Im pathetic, I think youre hilarious. But Im sure youll reply with a bold fonted reply about my lack of apostrophe use, thus my opinions are null and void. So be it, Ive been lambasted on this forum plenty of times before, and will plenty of times in the future. My brash internet persona brings this, Ive gotten used to it.

 

[deadheadskier]

To please AdironRider I want the best damn on snow experience before anything else gets a dime spent on it. Get it?

I hope you don't have such a 'me' centric idea when it comes to owning your own restaurant in a ski town as you've stated is a desire of yours; it you do, you'll fail.

All Sugarbush has done has spent money on phase 1 (massive real estate development) and now phase 2, which is amenities for said real estate development, which in my mind is just a direct extension of real estate.

which is pretty much the proven winning formula for all major ski resorts in the US that have shown facility expansion and economic growth over the past several decades. Of the 250 mil being spent at Stowe, how much of that do you think has been spent on snowmaking? I bet 1% or less.

I boot up in the car and never spend a second or one dime in a resorts base facilities, naturally Im going to see anything else as a waste of money.

Got it. You've been hammering the snowmaking investment drum not because of what you think is right for the business, but it's because it's what YOU want. If I were Win, I'd care very little about the guy only buying a pass and booting up in the lot.


talk about FAIL. I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. You came in talking about SB improvements like it was the right business decision to invest in snowmaking; even had the comment a bit back about how this is what people want in this economic climate. I heard you out. You haven't skied there in several years. You proved further that you know very little about Sugarbush with your input that there weren't tents for skier services.

Sorry AdironRider, it's one thing to have an opinion; it's another to act like an uniformed know it all. You've proven the latter. This last series of comments from you really shows that.

 

[Terry]

The other Shawnee (ME) is replacing their summit triple with another summit triple.

They are also installing an Emmegi conveyor loader to load the new triple. Never seen one of these but it is supposed to let the lift run faster. Anyone ever used one before? Sounds odd to me but maybe it will work well. Time will tell.

 

[HowieT2]

Thats the nicest freaking tent you or I have ever seen. I still think base area improvement should be done after on hill improvements. You can call me pathetic, insult my lack of grammar on an internet forum (oh my!), my intelligence, the list goes on, but I dont give a damn.

To please AdironRider I want the best damn on snow experience before anything else gets a dime spent on it. Get it? You dont like it, so resort to picking apart ever single thing I have to say about it. Bullshit. All Sugarbush has done has spent money on phase 1 (massive real estate development) and now phase 2, which is amenities for said real estate development, which in my mind is just a direct extension of real estate. This is my opinion, and I can say whatever I want. Deal with it. Ill keep on keeping on, and Im sure it will keep on pissing you off. Its kinda fun really. Ive had a good day, pissed off threecy and you. Who's next, time will tell. I call it like I want.

I boot up in the car and never spend a second or one dime in a resorts base facilities, naturally Im going to see anything else as a waste of money. You dont. Am I the regular customer, of course not, but I can say anything I damn well please on the internet, much to your chagrin. Boo hoo, some made up internet persona thinks Im pathetic, I think youre hilarious. But Im sure youll reply with a bold fonted reply about my lack of apostrophe use, thus my opinions are null and void. So be it, Ive been lambasted on this forum plenty of times before, and will plenty of times in the future. My brash internet persona brings this, Ive gotten used to it.

The irony is that Tin and I would think management itself agree that there needs to be investment in snowmaking at SB. So no one disagrees with what you're saying about improving snowmaking capacity. But there has to be a priority of investing limited resources, not that they take on so much debt that they handicap the operation for the long term. Anyone who has visited SB should realize that for the majority of the market, the new buildings are a much higher priority than improving the snowmaking. The new structures will provide the visitor to SB (as opposed to us regulars) with a much more enjoyable experience, thereby encouraging more to return and/or to become regulars/stakeholders. Improvements to snow making might make for marginally better skiing a couple of days of a season, but frankly, it's not even a close call as to what is more important.

 

[AdironRider]

You guys realize this is a flame war between Tin and I right? Settle down.

And bringing up my career Deadhead, weaksauce. You think my real life has anything to do with an internet thread. Puhlease.

 

[deadheadskier]

you display a know it all attitude online. I'm not the first to notice this or call you out on it. I'm guessing it translates pretty accurately in 3D.

 

[marcski]

I don't know about you..but with all the flame wars aside, I think its really cool that 2 of the biggest ones are bringing back the old! Mittersill and North Creek Ski Bowl!

 

[Greg]

My brash internet persona brings this, Ive gotten used to it.

So does that mean you're a cool chill guy in person? I'll never get the internet tough guy thing. So ghey...