Mittersill Photos (September 2010)

[UVSHTSTRM]

Reading comprehension is fundamental. The bolded items were the improvements at Sunapee that grew their business. Of course it has nothing to do with Cannon/Mittersill.

My argument is very simple. Sunapee did this and increased their visits by 100K. Cannon did that and should be able to increase their visits by 18K.

You seriously don't think that a 50% increase in lift serviced skiable terrain is 18% as significant as the improvements Sunapee has done?

18K skier visits. That's roughly a thousand skiers per week for the season. It's really not that much.

Of course I'm sure if a Private Company leased and did the same expansion you'd say, "What heroes. This is fantastic. 100K more skiers a year will head to Cannon. And my gosh, the side benefit is the glorious fact that the lease saves each NH resident fifty cents"

My only beef is that it will more often than not be closed because of zero snowmaking combined with an initial surge of skier traffic (the newness factor), which inturn will drive people away when they realize they are skiing on grass and ice. I have a feeling that outside the people who initially were treking over there, that most will try it once and not really enjoy it. This is good for the "locals" "regulars", but bad to sustain an 18000 person increase year after year. Also in regards to Sunapee and Cannon their is one huge difference, Sunapees Boston population and local population has housing, 4 season housing within minutes. Many of Sunapees clientel live there during the summer and can now return during the winter with a quality product.

 

[bobbutts]

I got a taste of ungroomed, pretty deep powder at Gunstock one night during a snowstorm in Feb 09 and it was very challenging to me. I was sort of a mess, LOL. But I liked it. Plus, I want to make that boot traverse of legend and yore. It all just sounds wicked cool to me.

You're probably right about liking the main mountain better. We'll see.

As for Loon, I've always wanted to go there, but my impression is its pretty crowded, and there are never any deals there. WV does twofers and Gunstock does midweek deals. (I won't ski either one on a Saturday).

Nice, I'd say your attitude is ahead of your stated skill level
Most skiers I've met with less experience/skills refuse to leave their comfort zone.

 

[billski]

Check out Ragged too - similar to Gunstock but I like it better. Cannon and Waterville are similar timewise from exit 23 (New Hampton) given the long drive into WV as someone has noted previously.

+1 for a weekend.

 

[riverc0il]

First post here . I have been lurking for a while, really enjoying the pictures in this thread! Not looking to weigh in on the debate, I just find it fascinating that they are bringing the Mittersill area back from the dead and I am planning to visit Cannon for the first time this winter as a result. I am a lower intermediate skier from CT who spends alot of time in NH in the winter around the Lakes Region. I got into skiing 3 years ago and try to get out 4-5 times a year.

My ski dollars going to Cannon will come at the expense of Waterville Valley or Gunstock, where I would usually go 2-3 times a year. So count me as one of the projected 18,000

Welcome!

I find it interesting that you are planning to ski Cannon for the first time ever because of the Mittersill expansion. The reason I find this interesting is that as a lower intermediate, you will very likely not enjoy the skiing experience at Mittersill as it will be all natural snow without any grooming. Most lower intermediate skiers find that kind of uneven snow condition very challenging. More power to you if you give it a shot but it is odd that this expansion is attracting you to Cannon. Just making an observation as I am sure you are not alone in this camp.

 

[skiberg]

Mittersill has very limited easy terrain. it also has limited very difficutl terrain It is primarily advanced terrain similar to Cannon in gradiant. What makes it more difficult is the narowness, trees and natural snow. Also, generally when it is open there is not much ice. The fact that there is no snowmaking means we get very little snow making hardpack ice at Mitt. Snowmaking is bad for conditions. Unfortunately, in the East we can not live without it. With the moistuer we have here, when we lay snow down it more often than not turns rock hard in a few days. All snowmaking does is gurantee conditions and guarantee snow. It is a necessary evil. Of course with the weather we can get ice at Mitt. particularly if we get a warm spell or rain. Last year for a long time the area was simply unskiable. However, much of the time there is much less ice at Mitt.

 

[billski]

Hoo boy. Just looking at Cannon Mountain Facebook page. Someone posted this question:

"When will the Mittersill slopes be open? Will a beginner be able to go up and come back to Mittersill condos?"

Guess we'll need a little education campaign!

 

[Cannonball]

Hoo boy. Just looking at Cannon Mountain Facebook page. Someone posted this question:

"When will the Mittersill slopes be open? Will a beginner be able to go up and come back to Mittersill condos?"

Guess we'll need a little education campaign!

I don't have a Facebook account. Did you answer it for them? I guess I'd say: 'Without snowmaking Mittersill trail openings will be weather dependent. Natural snow conditions may make Mittersill's terrain somewhat challenging for inexperienced skiers. But the pitch and width of the trails are not overly difficult and Cannon plans to have a least one groomed route to the bottom."

 

[billski]

I don't have a Facebook account. Did you answer it for them? I guess I'd say: 'Without snowmaking Mittersill trail openings will be weather dependent. Natural snow conditions may make Mittersill's terrain somewhat challenging for inexperienced skiers. But the pitch and width of the trails are not overly difficult and Cannon plans to have a least one groomed route to the bottom."

That's for Cannon to answer. It's their page.

 

[Johnskiismore]

The tower tops have arrived:

http://forums.alpinezone.com/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=1272

 

[billski]

The tower tops have arrived:

http://forums.alpinezone.com/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=1272

thanx for the pix!

 

[SIKSKIER]

Oh no,I count 13 towers!

 

[billski]

Oh no,I count 13 towers!

Count from zero
Buildings with 13 floors solve this problem by having a "ground" floor. Lifts should too

 

[thetrailboss]

Count from zero
Buildings with 13 floors solve this problem by having a "ground" floor. Lifts should too

Don't laugh. Some lifts have sheave trains on the base terminal that are considered "Tower #1." Take Burke for example.

 

[bigbob]

Was working off Rt 18 so I swung up Monday Evening to see what was happening. Looks like the tower bases have been back filled and hayed. Drain line was being installed at the base. None of the towers were on site with the exception of the base/top towers. Looks like it will be a top drive, was a spool of electric cable over 4000'long on site. Some chairs and most of the safety bars on site. Sorry, no foot rests! Wire rope spool was there also. No pics of the site, but Cannon Mnt top from the base of the upper chair was white as well as Lafayette.

 

[billski]

If you are in the metro Boston area next Wednesday 10/27, stop by our club meeting and listen to Julianne Ireland discuss Mittersill and the other 2010-11 offerings at Cannon. She is bringing some mini-videos for our viewing as well. Doors open at 6:30pm, presentation begins at 7pm. You do not need to be a member to attend.
http://www.aceskiandboardclub.org/meetings.html

 

[thetrailboss]

Was working off Rt 18 so I swung up Monday Evening to see what was happening. Looks like the tower bases have been back filled and hayed. Drain line was being installed at the base. None of the towers were on site with the exception of the base/top towers. Looks like it will be a top drive, was a spool of electric cable over 4000'long on site. Some chairs and most of the safety bars on site. Sorry, no foot rests! Wire rope spool was there also. No pics of the site, but Cannon Mnt top from the base of the upper chair was white as well as Lafayette.

A top drive? Really? And I'm sure that the lack of footrests is going to make some angry.

 

[Puck it]

No foot rests for that price. I would start lobby to get the tax money back.

 

[bigbob]

No foot rests for that price. I would start lobby to get the tax money back.

3..2...1..Threecy!! And Threecy, are you also known as rocket21 on Snow journal???

 

[threecy]

And Threecy, are you also known as rocket21 on Snow journal???

Yes...I was still full time in the ski industry when I signed up here, so I at the time needed to have a separate username for marketing related stuff.

In regard to footrests, I actually prefer no footrests on a double if it moves fast enough. I bet there will be complaints, though.

 

[deadheadskier]

as opposed to a quad?

dangling feet are dangling feet