Best Route From Northern NJ to Stowe?

[k123]

Should I go with 1) 684 to 84 to 91 to 89 or 2) 87 to 149/4 to 100 to 107 to 89?

On the way back I'm heading to Albany, should I take 1) 89 to 107 to 100 to 7 or 2) 89 towards burlington then to 7, 22a, 17, 185, 9N, to 87?

Around Thanksgiving part of 107 was still closed, does anyone know if it is fully open now?

Thanks in advance

 

[Bubbartzky]

Best route from NNJ is 87 to 149 to 4 to 22A to 7 to 189 to 89 to Stowe exit.

 

[k123]

Best route from NNJ is 87 to 149 to 4 to 22A to 7 to 189 to 89 to Stowe exit.

Would this be the best way for going back to Albany on Sunday night?

 

[andyzee]

Best route from NNJ is 87 to 149 to 4 to 22A to 7 to 189 to 89 to Stowe exit.

Agreed, take same to Albany.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Best route from NNJ is 87 to 149 to 4 to 22A to 7 to 189 to 89 to Stowe exit.

THIS.

And have a full tank before you leave NJ, because gas is more expensive in NY and VT.

 

[k123]

Best route from NNJ is 87 to 149 to 4 to 22A to 7 to 189 to 89 to Stowe exit.

Thanks, sounds like this is the way to go! Good thing I checked with you guys or I was going to go up 91.

 

[ski_resort_observer]

Thanks, sounds like this is the way to go! Good thing I checked with you guys or I was going to go up 91.

I think 91>89 is good way as well. Once you get on 149 to 189 your on state roads with alot of places on that route that can really slow you down. Going thru Whitehall, many small villages on 22A you have to drive slow thru, Rt 7 as you get to Burlington to jump on 189, lots of traffic lights. Not totally direct, going to Burlington, then down 89 to the Waterbury exit.

The 91>89 route, no traffic lights and you cruise at interstate speed making up for the longer mileage(not totally direct either) vs the slower speeds of 80 miles or so of Vermont state roads. Burlington to Albany, definately the first route suggested.

 

[BenedictGomez]

I think 91>89 is good way as well. Once you get on 149 to 189 your on state roads with alot of places on that route that can really slow you down. Going thru Whitehall, many small villages on 22A you have to drive slow thru, Rt 7 as you get to Burlington to jump on 189, lots of traffic lights. Not totally direct, going to Burlington, then down 89 to the Waterbury exit.

The 91>89 route, no traffic lights and you cruise at interstate speed making up for the longer mileage(not totally direct either) vs the slower speeds of 80 miles or so of Vermont state roads. Burlington to Albany, definately the first route suggested.

I've done this drive 1001 times from Jersey, and the 87 to 89 route that others have suggested is far superior than going 91. You're drastically increasing your chances of encountering horrible traffic and/or construction and congestion. Yuck. Not to mention, you really dont have to slow down much in Whitehall and 22A, unless you get screwed behind a truck and cant pass, and at night 22A is like the autobahn. So if you're the sort that only drives posted speed limits, the 87 route through NY+VT is still a little quicker, but if you're the sort that will speed on 149, 22A, 7, it's substantially quicker. (And if you're the sort that's cheap as hell (like me), the 87 route will also save you $15 or $20 in gas!)

 

[Gilligan]

THIS.

And have a full tank before you leave NJ, because gas is more expensive in NY and VT.

But you will probably want to fill up again in VT, since NY gas is the most expensive of the 3.

 

[NotEasyBeingGreen]

Last time we went up to Stowe on a Friday night, 89 was absolutely crawling with troopers - I think we saw 6 or 7.

 

[Stache]

And Route 4 from Ft. Ann to Whitehall can also have a serious police presence.

 

[Smellytele]

Last time we went up to Stowe on a Friday night, 89 was absolutely crawling with troopers - I think we saw 6 or 7.

They only pull over people with license plates south/west of vermont

 

[x10003q]

From NJ to Stowe I always go 91/89. For me driving on the interstate is way easier than being wired up for 80 miles of mostly single lane. I get way better gas milage on the highway and the 91/89 route is only about 15-20 miles longer. I also do not have to worry about lights, driveways, trees, buses, trucks, and frost heaves at 50 miles an hour. There is a huge difference between averaging 40 miles an hour on back roads and 60 miles an hour on interstates.

 

[BenedictGomez]

From NJ to Stowe I always go 91/89. For me driving on the interstate is way easier than being wired up for 80 miles of mostly single lane. I get way better gas milage on the highway and the 91/80 route is only about 15-20 miles longer. I also do not have to worry about lights, driveways, trees, buses, trucks, and frost heaves at 50 miles an hour. There is a huge difference between averaging 40 miles an hour on back roads and 60 miles an hour on interstates.

I question whether you've ever done the other route, as nobody would reasonably call 4, 22A, or 7 "back roads", or roads that you need to do anything close to as slow as 40mph on.

FWIW, the posted speed limits on all those roads is higher than 40mph, and I'm certainly doing no less than 55 or 60mph on any of them. Actually, if I'm doing 55mph on any of those three, you can assume I'm already "stuck" behind a truck.

The most "back roady" of them is 149, and even that I wouldnt really call a back road, unless you were born and raised in NYC. Plus you're only talking about 10 or 12 miles that you're on 149, and there again, even the posted speed limit is higher than 40mph.

 

[SkiDork]

+1

I regularly do 70 on most of 4 without much of a problem. 149 also,

I do have a radar detector...

 

[deadheadskier]

Not to mention, you really dont have to slow down much in Whitehall and 22A, unless you get screwed behind a truck and cant pass, and at night 22A is like the autobahn.

Trey Anastasio would beg to differ :lol:

 

[jimmywilson69]

Trey Anastasio would beg to differ :lol:

was he speeding or weaving or both? :-o:lol:

 

[BenedictGomez]

+1

I regularly do 70 on most of 4 without much of a problem. 149 also,

I do have a radar detector...

Ditto. I'm in the 70s on 4, 22A, and 7, and I have an amazing radar detector. Love the thing.

Trey Anastasio would beg to differ :lol:

Did he get into an accident?

 

[deadheadskier]

Ditto. I'm in the 70s on 4, 22A, and 7, and I have an amazing radar detector. Love the thing.



Did he get into an accident?

 

[lou12572]

k123
i think bubba's got a good route to and then back to albany. i do take your route #1 when i visit my son at norwich university since he's close to sugarbush. 107 is now open and has new pavement in spots and paved at cross drains. in the areas of cross drains the road has settled and you will defenatly have to slow down a bit. route 100 has lots of heaves now but not to bad. hope this helps