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Complaining about skiing in CT.....is this a thing now?

bvibert

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Those look great obviously but the seeding doesn't look all that great in the recent pics compared to YouTube videos I've seen from years past. Just my opinion and I hope the get some monster bumps from it.

Trust me, all the bumps you see in any Sundown Youtube video started out just like seeds pictured earlier in the thread.
 

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This is interesting to me. I thought the whole point of seeding bumps was to achieve some degree of symmetry. Out of curiosity, why do you feel it necessary to seed bumps rather than just let them form on their own...? Is it just to have SOME control of the spacing?

I'm also sort of curious about the pitch of this run. Can someone make a reasonable comparison of this run to something in NH or VT that some of us might be familiar with?


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Sometimes bumps are seeded to get a nice symmetrical course, but at Sundown they're seeded just to get some bumps. I suppose there is some degree of symmetry, but there's no measurements or anything made. Piles of snow are just pushed up with a cat, the cat operator makes a good effort to make them orderly, but they're far from perfect. They turn out way more like natural bumps than seeded bumps, which I for one love. If they didn't seed then I don't think that any bumps worth skiing would ever form at Sundown, except for maybe in the spring when the snow is nice and soft.
 

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How did these turn out? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h73m6-Ov0p8

I just feel like these seeded bumps look better.


that was gunbarrel, the groomer has basically a wide and straight trail to work with. over at N'easter, it curves to skier's left and that might off set things a bit. I've noticed that with seeded trails in other areas.

i'm not complaining, having bumps spread out a bit more may be the new norm given shaped skis and more riders going into non groomed trails.
 

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How did these turn out? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h73m6-Ov0p8

I just feel like these seeded bumps look better.

Those bumps turned out awesome!

Not a great pic, but this was them just before we closed last year (the big bumps are on the pitch beyond view of the picture):
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Like Jack said, two different trails with different expectations. The seeds in the video above were done in the spring when we know it's gonna get soft and big quickly.

You'll get no argument from me about the Gunny bumps in the above video being better than the seeds shown earlier will ever get. Dreams of spring Gunny bumps are what keeps me going all year! :spread: It's not even really an apples to apples comparison.

For what we have to work with the rest of the season the seeds on Nor'easter work out just fine. Like Jack said that trail has a couple of turns and some undulations that make it interesting.
 

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Those bumps turned out awesome!

Not a great pic, but this was them just before we closed last year (the big bumps are on the pitch beyond view of the picture):
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Like Jack said, two different trails with different expectations. The seeds in the video above were done in the spring when we know it's gonna get soft and big quickly.

You'll get no argument from me about the Gunny bumps in the above video being better than the seeds shown earlier will ever get. Dreams of spring Gunny bumps are what keeps me going all year! :spread: It's not even really an apples to apples comparison.

For what we have to work with the rest of the season the seeds on Nor'easter work out just fine. Like Jack said that trail has a couple of turns and some undulations that make it interesting.

How come you don't just seed Gunbarrel early season then? Those look great.
 

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How come you don't just seed Gunbarrel early season then? Those look great.

Gunbarrel is used for racing most of the season. There's not enough room to have gates and bumps, so we lose out until racing is done for the year. Damn racers!
 

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How come you don't just seed Gunbarrel early season then? Those look great.

The spandex monkeys rule the winter months. We only get gunbarrel for 3 weeks or so and they STILL complain about giving us 1/2 the trail for bumps.
 

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The spandex monkeys rule the winter months. We only get gunbarrel for 3 weeks or so and they STILL complain about giving us 1/2 the trail for bumps.

Racers are pansies. A few well placed moguls on a race course never hurt anyone right?
 

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There is a few spots where you can see the noreaster bumps progression in my video from today....

 

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Nice job in the bumps. Always impressed with boarders that can do that.

All thanks due to the rad AZ dudes that pushed me into it about 4 seasons ago now....otherwise I would have just been another one of the mogul snobs. Now I go nuts once they put em in...I'll ride em from seed to monster no worries, just need to keep working on the form :)
 

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they get better in the spring on a different trail.

I wish I knew how to ride uphill like that! :-D
 

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was lapping the bumps today... it was cold! N'easter got coated with man made, see the pics below, some of the trees near the towers got sprayed. The bumps on the trail got bigger or the troughs got deeper. Got to love a place that will spray some freshies on the bumps!

Ex bumps are meh, they have areas where its icy, both at the troughs and on the backside. Had to ski it several times to find the bad spots and then find some lines around it.

N'easter bumps at 9:00 am, close to flat light conditions
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later in the morning
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was lapping the bumps today... it was cold! N'easter got coated with man made, see the pics below, some of the trees near the towers got sprayed. The bumps on the trail got bigger or the troughs got deeper. Got to love a place that will spray some freshies on the bumps!

Ex bumps are meh, they have areas where its icy, both at the troughs and on the backside. Had to ski it several times to find the bad spots and then find a line around it.

N'easter bumps at 9:00 am, close to flat light conditions
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later in the morning
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Looking much better. A little man made did the trick!
 

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was lapping the bumps today... it was cold! N'easter got coated with man made, see the pics below, some of the trees near the towers got sprayed. The bumps on the trail got bigger or the troughs got deeper. Got to love a place that will spray some freshies on the bumps!

Ex bumps are meh, they have areas where its icy, both at the troughs and on the backside. Had to ski it several times to find the bad spots and then find some lines around it.

N'easter bumps at 9:00 am, close to flat light conditions
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later in the morning
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The line on skiers left looks good!


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