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The Whiteface Slides are OPEN!

BenedictGomez

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In college I got my AIARE level I and II as well as WFR so I do think I can. On many occasions I have seen the Slides closed (with sufficient base) when avalanche danger is low or non-existent. It would be nice to know what their reasoning is sometimes.

This is all I ask as well. It just seems so ambiguous.

It's almost like they enjoy keeping them closed for the "mystery" or something. I'm all for safety, but it seems like they're way over cautious.

That said, I've admittedly never skied them, because they're pretty much never open. So for comparison, and to educate me on the degree of difficulty, how much more difficult are they then say, Liftline at Smuggs?
 

MadMadWorld

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This is all I ask as well. It just seems so ambiguous.

It's almost like they enjoy keeping them closed for the "mystery" or something. I'm all for safety, but it seems like they're way over cautious.

That said, I've admittedly never skied them, because they're pretty much never open. So for comparison, and to educate me on the degree of difficulty, how much more difficult are they then say, Liftline at Smuggs?

It's not anymore difficult and besides Slide #4 (I believe), Liftline at Smuggs is more challenging. The Slides do come with avi danger and there have been at least 2 real slides triggered in the last 5 years by dummies poaching it from outside the resort. So they should be cautious but sometimes it's excessive.
 

jaysunn

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WF Slides are amazing with proper snow conditions, all else, is fucking dangerous. Knowledge is power, and proper equipment is key. Be careful if you enter, sick if conditions are right.
 

fbrissette

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Well, if that's truly the case then it adds to the, "WTH are these things never open" debate.

Slope is only one variable in the 'potential danger' equation. The slides are a relatively slick rock face with lots of resurging water forming icy patches on top of the rock. There is not much vegetation to hold snow in place, compared to liftline at Stowe or Face Chutes at Jay which are full of small trees.

This is not a slope I would ever ski in the backcountry. High potential for a weak layer at the base, little to no exit route, and it is a terrain trap if you are stuck in a slide.
 

MadMadWorld

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Slope is only one variable in the 'potential danger' equation. The slides are a relatively slick rock face with lots of resurging water forming icy patches on top of the rock. There is not much vegetation to hold snow in place, compared to liftline at Stowe or Face Chutes at Jay which are full of small trees.

This is not a slope I would ever ski in the backcountry. High potential for a weak layer at the base, little to no exit route, and it is a terrain trap if you are stuck in a slide.

The one thing this year that has been a real problem is the different layers of snow. In the snowpack you could find heavy wet snow, wind blown hard pack, and very light powder. With that said, a nice warm up should make that snow adhere nicely and make the slides skiable to everyone until the end of the season.
 
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