2010 Subaru Outback

[campgottagopee]

Few peeps on here don't care for the all new Outback, well, some people think they're pretty darn good.

http://www.motortrend.com/oftheyear/suv/112_0912_2010_suv_of_the_year_winner/index.html


Note: 2009 Motor Trends SUV of the year was the Subaru Forester------good stuff from Subie!!!

 

[deadheadskier]

moving along

:lol:

 

[campgottagopee]

moving along

:lol:

I know---it's get boring when one single manufacturer dominates the field of play

 

[billski]

Me heart my 83 Subaru GL Wagon. No fancy names, it just worked (except for the CV boots that split every 20K miles)

I drank the Ski car cool-aid...

 

[Glenn]

These classifications confuse me. Subaru makes wagons and cars....that are slighly "lifted". I hardly consider them "SUVs". To me, an SUV is something more truckish, that can tow more thank 2k lbs. Furthermore, things like the RAV4, Highlander ect aren't really SUVs either. Anything built on car platform is crossover IMHO. But that's just me.

 

[Edd]

Wow. That is very good for Subaru, and very bad for me getting the deal I'd like on an Outback.

 

[campgottagopee]

Wow. That is very good for Subaru, and very bad for me getting the deal I'd like on an Outback.

In their class Subie is very competitively priced----you wont find rebates but you will find subvented apr's that are great right now. Don't think of the "deal" or you'll drive yourself nuts. Good luck

 

[Marc]

*sigh*

And the styling travesties continue. Srsly, they made the best looking Imprezza's for two years (04-05) and then decided they looked too good and beat the shiat out of them with the ugly stick. The last gen Outbacks looked OK. God forbid they continue that trend. Not that I'm big on styling, but... man. Simple, understated is what I like. Not like someone grabbed the car on either side and yanked the corner of the headlights back toward the fenders. Like when the alien in Men In Black puts on the Edgar skin suit and yanks taught the skin on his head.

 

[campgottagopee]

*sigh*

And the styling travesties continue. Srsly, they made the best looking Imprezza's for two years (04-05) and then decided they looked too good and beat the shiat out of them with the ugly stick. The last gen Outbacks looked OK. God forbid they continue that trend. Not that I'm big on styling, but... man. Simple, understated is what I like. Not like someone grabbed the car on either side and yanked the corner of the headlights back toward the fenders. Like when the alien in Men In Black puts on the Edgar skin suit and yanks taught the skin on his head.[/QUOTE]

Friggin lmfao

 

[riverc0il]

The tag line on that opening picture says it all "Find the hidden SUV". Pity Subaru does not make wagons any more....

 

[Marc]

The tag line on that opening picture says it all "Find the hidden SUV". Pity Subaru does not make wagons any more....

Srsly. Why'd they drop the Legacy wagon? That was boneheaded, Subaru.

 

[riverc0il]

Srsly. Why'd they drop the Legacy wagon? That was boneheaded, Subaru.

Why are they dropping wagons PERIOD! Subaru has always been known as a maker of wagons. Not big SUVs (Tribeca), Mid-sized SUVs (Forester), and Small-sized SUVs (Outback). Even the Forester was once a wagon with a lot of head room (to my eyes at least). And of course, the Impreza was once a mini-wagon and is now 100% hatchback. I don't understand why the company that defined wagons now does not have a single legitimate wagon in their catalog. Color me bitter because for the past four years, I always said "my next vehicle is going to be a new Subaru Wagon." I am not buying used for our next vehicle and I can no longer buy Subaru if I want a Wagon.

Sorry, broken record on this issue, it is just really sad how Subaru pandered to the SUV (oh, sorry, "Crossover") market. At least they could have retained a SINGLE wagon model for more modest eyes and uses (and a little more MPG, thanks!). And that is another thing... if you want a SUV, but an F'ing SUV! My goodness, we wouldn't want to let the Jones's see you in a full sized SUV these days. That is SO early 00s and SO bad for the environment. Oh wait, what do cross overs get for MPG? Laughable.

 

[campgottagopee]

Srsly. Why'd they drop the Legacy wagon? That was boneheaded, Subaru.

It's really quite simple---slow seller=incentives to move them=less profit for Mr. Car Builder

Right now, and for the past vouple years, Subie is selling every car they build at quite an incredible pace with NO incentives (rebates), VERY impressive in todays market. Honestly, other than here, I can't remeber the last time somebody came in looking for the Legacy Wagon .......bottom line some peeps just can't deal with change. :smile:

 

[jaja111]

I have an '09 Outback XT, and it ain't nothing other than a wagon. SUV my ass. If I wanted an "SUV" I would have bought a late '70's Bronco.

I think they label these SUV's for meeting CAFE standards, as, IIRC, SUV's don't have to maintain the same fuel mileage requirements (which are made difficult to achieve with Sub's AWD)..... or something along those lines. My sales rep at the dealer in July actually admitted this. I looked at him funny when he said the Outback was an SUV, and he just shook his head with his hands up saying "I dunno...I just sell the damn things and it looks like a damn wagon to me." Good thing I love station wagons - and Subaru discontinued putting WRX motors and sticks in Outbacks leaving me with one of the last ones around with a $3k rebate so they could off them in prep for the 2010 bloated CVT mobiles.

 

[Edd]

I love my Legacy wagon. If they made new ones I would be at a dealership buying one right this second.

Camp, are you saying that the Legacy sedan sold better than the wagon? That's tough to believe considering the Subaru crowd. I can see Joe American avoiding the wagon (why I just can't f***ing understand) but Subaru people strike me as practical.

I think all cars should be wagons. They are too expensive to not make them 100% useful.

I suggest Subaru come out with a new model. Call it the "Wagon". Stick it on an Impreza platform and make it at least as roomy as the Hyundai Elantra Touring. Not cramped like the current Impreza hatchback. Normal sized tires, normal ground clearance, as aerodynamic as possible while still being a wagon. A full on practicality assault, screw style. AWD, of course. Charge $18000 and I'll buy it tomorrow.

 

[campgottagopee]

Yes, the legacy sedan was a better "seller" than the wagon. We saw people migrating away from the wagon to the outback in 2007 when they introduced the outback basic---same $$$ as the legacy wagon and a "percieved" better/bigger value.

 

[wa-loaf]

So I've seen a few of these on the road now. You know those photo distortion programs where you can stretch out some ones face? That's what the new Outback looks like to me.

 

[skijay]

Another positive note about a Subaru. They are cheap to insure. Mine dropped when I went from a 2003 Saturn VUE to the 09 Forester. The reasons I was given: safety & low theft.

The 09 Outback was about $50 a year cheaper than the 09 Forester to insure.

 

[Philpug]

I drove a new 10 OB the other day, while it is a better car, it is not a better Subaru and like my Legacy thread it will be a sales success. It is big, too big for me, but right for Americans. Seats, seat bottoms felt short, I think they took 2" off the seat bottom to show more leg room on paper. Pass seat position is higher than the Forester, which is good. I am not sold on the electronic E-brake...err parking brake. I kinda liked the 1-6 on the dash to tell me what gear I was in, not that I don't feel revs w/ speed, I thought this was interesting. Shifter felt less numb than previous Subies but still not there, a short shift kit could help. In todays age, why does Subaru still have the center seatbelt coming from the ceiling, it should be in the seatback. Volvo had been doing this for 20 years. I would miss the big sunroof of the last generation too.

 

[skijay]

Today's shuttle vehicle was the 10 OB w/ manual transmission. I do have to say I liked the OB. That thing has got balls! I guess I should have followed advice I got on the Subi forums - buy the Forester with the manual tranny!