2021-22 Season Passes

[snoseek]

They can up the price a bit...especially if they got something like MRG or Smuggs.

 

[sull1102]

Indy Pass for $300 plus the Boyne pass for under $400 is a great combo. For Boston based folks you get Loon for day trips, SR for a couple longer multi day trips out of Boyne and then you get Waterville, Cannon, Pats Peak(if you have youngins) for day trips still and Jay Peak plus Saddleback for a possible weekend away. Admittedly, the Indy at $260 was a no brainer for me because I know I will find four days between just WV and Cannon for the $65 per day. Having been a Loon passholder this season it would have been nice to spice things up a bit for a day trip. At $300 the Indy is a hell of a lot harder because you kind of need to find that 5th day at say Jay Peak or Magic or Saddleback to make it worth it. Oh the first world struggles of a skier these days....

 

[KustyTheKlown]

i would probably still buy indy, with no new resorts, up to $400ish

i used 2 magic, 2 bolton, 2 jay + 25% off 3rd day, 1 cannon, 1 berkshire east. and if not for the shitty abrupt end of season, i'd have used the second days at cannon and berkshire, and both saddleback. in that use case of 12 days, at $400 its $33 a day. still a great deal.

i could also see myself checking out catamount and greek peak if the situation were right for it.

 

[Newpylong]

Despite a hefty jump, (but still being only at $349), we pulled the trigger on another year at Ragged a few hours from the deadline.

While still cheaper than the rest of the pack, they have gone up $10-20 per year, and up 17%+ this year since "Mission Affordable" (ie the $249 pass) was created 5 years ago. I suspect they are trying to find a price point where demand tapers off, which my hunch is a couple more hundred by the time it's all said and done. They put out one hell of a product this year so I suspect sales will be through the roof.

At some point we will likely punch out (almost did this year) as the break even goes up higher and we spend more time in Maine at Saddleback, etc.

 

[dblskifanatic]

So I saw an ad on FB for WMSP. I was surprised at the price of $1099. We like Cannon, but not a fan of Cranmore or Waterville Valley but have not been there since they added Green Peak. Bretton Woods is great for cruising but not a big fan of that either. I used to get the Cannon pass for sub $300 so probably why I do not understand the pricing in todays mega pass world.

 

[urungus]

So I saw an ad on FB for WMSP. I was surprised at the price of $1099. We like Cannon, but not a fan of Cranmore or Waterville Valley but have not been there since they added Green Peak. Bretton Woods is great for cruising but not a big fan of that either. I used to get the Cannon pass for sub $300 so probably why I do not understand the pricing in todays mega pass world.

If you don’t like any of the other mountains, maybe a cheaper Cannon-only pass would be better for you. But Cannon-only pass hasnt been $300 for several decades, according to https://www.newenglandskihistory.com/NewHampshire/cannonmtn.php

 

[dblskifanatic]

If you don’t like any of the other mountains, maybe a cheaper Cannon-only pass would be better for you. But Cannon-only pass hasnt been $300 for several decades, according to https://www.newenglandskihistory.com/NewHampshire/cannonmtn.php

I used to get the Cannon NH Veterans pass which is still sub 300 by a dollar! We already bought the Epic Pass.

 

[machski]

Well, if you plan to go to Big Sky for 21-22 with your Ikon, Mountain Collective or Boyne NEP Gold or Platinum (or just buy day tickets) and intend to ski off the top of Lone Peak using the tram, bring your wallet. It's not free or part of the vast majority of pass/ticket products at BS any longer:

Season Pass Letter from Big Sky Resort

Read a message from Big Sky Resort General Manager, Troy Nedved, reflecting on this season and looking forward to the winter of 2021-22.

bigskyresort.com

My guess is the $$ from this goes straight into the Tram Upgrade account. Still, the stated goal is to make the tram line 30 minutes on average. So I might pay $80 and still wind up with a 45 minute line? That is nuts.

 

[NYDB]

Or you could wind up in the clouds with a zero viz day or wind up with avi control 1/2 the day. I guess details are still to come though so we'll see how it works out

 

[Zand]

I guess doing the auto pay thing would be easy enough. I'd pay $20 to get up there with a shorter line. Definitely not $80 though...

 

[machski]

I guess doing the auto pay thing would be easy enough. I'd pay $20 to get up there with a shorter line. Definitely not $80 though...

If you do the autopay, it zings you as soon as you go through the Tram gate. Not sure if they will be posting the day rate or if you just find out on your CC bill.

 

[machski]

Or you could wind up in the clouds with a zero viz day or wind up with avi control 1/2 the day. I guess details are still to come though so we'll see how it works out

They said in the FAQ's if you ride it once and then it closes for the balance of the day (weather, avi control, mechanical), no refunds will be issued.

 

[ss20]

You guys know who skis next door out there don't you?

Bill Gates, Justin Timberlake, and the rest of the 1% who ski at Yellowstone Club will have no issue paying $80. They'll get full trams and long lines still, except now they'll make an absolute killing on it.

 

[Zermatt]

Big Sky will no longer allow tram access to Ikon pass holders. I suspect this trend will continue and erode the value of the pass. Jackson Hole and Snowbird are the next easy ones.

 

[Edd]

Big Sky will no longer allow tram access to Ikon pass holders. I suspect this trend will continue and erode the value of the pass. Jackson Hole and Snowbird are the next easy ones.

Can you source that, please?

 

[cdskier]

Can you source that, please?

The part about Big Sky no longer allowing tram access to Ikon pass holders is partially true and the link to the note from Big Sky is further up in this thread. I say partially true because they aren't targeting just Ikon holders. Mountain Collective, day ticket holders, and even the majority of Big Sky's own passholders would no longer have unlimited/free access to the tram either. Only their own highest level passholders get unlimited tram access. The 2nd level down gets 10 days of tram access. Everyone else can pay an additional fee as you go to access the tram.

 

[Zermatt]

Can you source that, please?

Unofficial Network

 

[dblskifanatic]

Can you source that, please?

From Big Sky web site

Starting Winter 2021-22, access to the Lone Peak Tram for lift tickets, Ikon & Mountain Collective passes, and most Big Sky Resort season passes will not be included. To access the Tram, an add-on product will be required. This initiative supports our goal of providing guests an elevated experience to the high-alpine terrain available and help alleviate wait times for the Tram.

 

[Tonyr]

Big Sky and Jackson both need alternative lifts to the summit, waiting over an hour in line to ride a tram is ridiculous. I didn't even attempt to ride it at either place this year due to the lines. Jackson years ago had a lift to the summit then removed it once the new tram went in and I can't understand why they just didn't leave it.

On the other hand, I was told that Big Sky may install a larger tram car one day but they'll never add another lift to the summit. They want to keep the amount of people skiing the peak limited so this ploy may be around for a while. I think when they changed a majority of the trails up there a couple of years ago to triple blacks from doubles it was an attempt at cutting down the crowds but that obviously hasn't worked. Either way charging extra is a bad idea it's just going to piss customers off.

Snowbird does it right they have 2 lifts that get you to the peak in addition to the tram which is one of the reasons why we'll go back there next year instead.

 

[machski]

If you have skied off the top of Lone Peak, then you know as it is now it can be boney as hell. That peak is not broad at the top, funneling most down one or two narrow paths and it gets dry snow and a ton of wind that shifts the snow around drastically. One year I was there, Otter Slide was completely bare the first two days and closed. Day three I am on the early Tram and the op says Otter Slide is open, which blew my mind as no new snow had fallen. I get up there and go over to it and low and behold, it is full of snow. Skied it and it skied great. I asked on the next ride as was told wind shifted and was strong overnight refilling the line. I cannot imagine what the Peak conditions would be like with a substantial increase in traffic similar to what Snowbird can deposit at its summit.

That said, I know a lift up Dakota to the top of Liberty Bowl terminating just below the Liberty fences has been talked about. I could see that, usually it is solid coverage below the fencing. For now I guess this is ok, will depend on Tram pack pricing when those come out in June.