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billski

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I take good care of my GS cruisers (and in the past racers) - they go out when the base is good.
I take fair care of my woods skis, mostly hitting branches and limbs, not too bad.
I'm getting a set of beaters for those early season days with marginal base (I am often not on the "open" trails). I've met too many rocks and sinkholes with surprises. The gashes from those days are spectacular, shall we say.

There are so many agendas for "good skiing" that I disagree with the notion of skiing "aggressively enough". I say, if you get to the bottom and are grinning, you're having a good day skiing...
 

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If you're worrying about the bottoms of your skis, you're skiing defensively and not aggressively as one should.

Disagreed. I think it has more to do with terrain preference. If you a high speed GS type, then more often than not you're going to be railing groomers that benefit from snowmaking. I'm not a groomer guy, but the ones that really set an edge are skiing aggressively. If natural snow trails, technical terrain, or spring bumps with dirt troughs are you're thing, there is some level of damage that you need to accept.
 

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Disagreed. I think it has more to do with terrain preference. If you a high speed GS type, then more often than not you're going to be railing groomers that benefit from snowmaking. I'm not a groomer guy, but the ones that really set an edge are skiing aggressively. If natural snow trails, technical terrain, or spring bumps with dirt troughs are you're thing, there is some level of damage that you need to accept.

But those guys that are on groomers that benefited from snowmaking know...(or at least expect there not to be rocks etc.) therefore, like you said, they're laying rails and I agree, are skiing agressively and therefore, are not worrying about damaging their skis.
 

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My skis def. get beat up, if you are skiing to avoid wear and tear on your equipment, that seems like you aren't maximizing your enjoyment of your ski time...

That being said, I have to disagree with those that say they do not see the point in sharpening edges unless you're a racer. Skiing the east coast, there are many days per season where the snow conditions result in my having a decided appreciation for a well tuned edge.
 

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So what...now you're the expert on how EVERYONE should ski :???:

No, not at all. Everyone should ski how ever the hell they want. In my opinion, its all about personal preference. I apologize if my post conveyed another message.

However, what I meant to convey by my post was the point that ... if you show almost anyone on this board a video of 2 skiers one, worrying about nicking his edges or bases as he skis while the other skis an agressive line down the fall line, I truly believe most people will pick the one skiing down the fall line as being the better skier.
 

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My skis def. get beat up, if you are skiing to avoid wear and tear on your equipment, that seems like you aren't maximizing your enjoyment of your ski time...

I have no problem hammering out some solid turns at speed. But I'm not going to romp down some trail that has poor coverage. Wear and tear is one thing. I'm a firm beleiver in skiing your skis they way they were meant to be skied. But I'm certainly not going to ski over crap on purpose. Or go into some of the VT glades when there's 3.5" of coverage in the woods.

Again, that's just me. I feel I do a pretty solid job at maximizing my fun factor...without trashing my equipment.

And I'm not singling you out jaywbigred...just making a broad statement. :cool:
 

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But I'm not going to romp down some trail that has poor coverage.

You don't know what your missing:

http://forums.alpinezone.com/13987-do-you-avoid-trails-marked-thin-cover.html

More often than not trails marked thin cover have some of the best snow on the mountain, along with fun obstacles to pick your way around! :) Even just a foot of snow over a grass base can be great. And I just love navigating melted out trails in the spring. It can make a much less steep trail fun.
 

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I'm certainly not going to ski over crap on purpose. Or go into some of the VT glades when there's 3.5" of coverage in the woods

If you only have one pair of skis, I can see that perspective. I'm setting myself up with a set of junk boards because I like to ski on crap early in the season. But I won't do it on my expensive cruisers. As they used to say in the 60's, It's Liberating! :) ebay here I come. there were some good grass skiing pictures at MRG yesterday:
 
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All my skis are rock skis..after a dozen days of skiing..my skis look like they have 50 days on them..partly because I ski through bare spots just for the fun of it...and hit the marquee route at Blue under the 6-pack after 5 inches of snow..
 

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I'm setting myself up with a set of junk boards because I like to ski on crap early in the season. But I won't do it on my expensive cruisers.

All my skis are 'junk boards' I guess then. No need for expensive cruisers here.
 
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You don't know what your missing:

http://forums.alpinezone.com/13987-do-you-avoid-trails-marked-thin-cover.html

More often than not trails marked thin cover have some of the best snow on the mountain, along with fun obstacles to pick your way around! :) Even just a foot of snow over a grass base can be great. And I just love navigating melted out trails in the spring. It can make a much less steep trail fun.


times two..one season at Stowe..liftline had a 40 yard stretch of walking required..and while most people were taking your skis off..I just skied over it..the key is skiing a flat ski over bare ground..wet grass skis better than the frozen cement we ski here in Pennsyltucky..
 

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All my skis are rock skis..after a dozen days of skiing..my skis look like they have 50 days on them..partly because I ski through bare spots just for the fun of it...and hit the marquee route at Blue under the 6-pack after 5 inches of snow..

You must really work them hard cause you quit skiing at 10:30 AM, at least that's what you posted. So 3 of your days would be more like 1 day to a non-poser skier.
 
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