But, but, but...
I think that is the comment of 2014! :lol:
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I think that is the comment of 2014! :lol:
MEtoVTSkier
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I'd sure be mad if I sprung for a full priced season pass...
VTKilarney
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MEtoVTSkier
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Next time, better hold out for one of their "limited time/once in a blue moon" (every other week) discounted passes!
VTKilarney
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Next time, better hold out for one of their "limited time/once in a blue moon" (every other week) discounted passes!
I got the early bird pass because I was led to believe that the price would go up and not be discounted nearly every Thursday.
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MEtoVTSkier
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It's too bad really, if they just spend a few bucks up front, and put a all-around decent product out there, word will get around and they'd never have a problem filling the place. It's a SKI RESORT!! Provide and market the SKIING! I don't care what's for supper at the Tamarack Grill, or what band or comedy show is upcoming... show me SKIING & RIDING! How hard it it to figure out??
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They don't necessarily need to bring anyone in to have a comedy show. It's currently going on.
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Magic is doing the same thing, short term cash flow thinking is going to burn them in the long run. You cant run a ski area effectively in the same fashion someone would live paycheck to paycheck.
The good news is that the "You Mad Bro" meme has been taken down; perhaps in part because of my comment made in response.
I'd be a bit more understanding and forgiving if Q was blowing snow like crazy, was trying to recover from the event, and was trying to put out a good ski product. Instead they are falling flat on their face which is understandable because he has cut off Burke's legs by not having compressors at the ready. The downright assault on locals and harsh response to constructive criticism does not sound like someone who has "a deep hospitality background and a get-your-hands dirty ethic". And that is his quote, not mine.
It is not too late to turn things around. Send Q Jr. to the airplane manufacturing company. Quietly hire a REAL management team that has SOME idea about ski area operations and leave them alone. Hell, just send some of the JPR team down. Do something. Just don't keep doing what Ascutney's owners did by using the Resort to inflate their ego and to make "them" the product because clearly folks don't like the Q's.
I'd be a bit more understanding and forgiving if Q was blowing snow like crazy, was trying to recover from the event, and was trying to put out a good ski product. Instead they are falling flat on their face which is understandable because he has cut off Burke's legs by not having compressors at the ready. The downright assault on locals and harsh response to constructive criticism does not sound like someone who has "a deep hospitality background and a get-your-hands dirty ethic". And that is his quote, not mine.
It is not too late to turn things around. Send Q Jr. to the airplane manufacturing company. Quietly hire a REAL management team that has SOME idea about ski area operations and leave them alone. Hell, just send some of the JPR team down. Do something. Just don't keep doing what Ascutney's owners did by using the Resort to inflate their ego and to make "them" the product because clearly folks don't like the Q's.
VTKilarney
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Here is an interesting comment that Q Burke posted to its Facebook page on October 22, 2012 when they posted a photo of Marge:
In the past we rented 5 diesel compressors, this electric compressor has about the same capacity of 3 diesel machines, so this year we will only rent 2 diesels and use the electric as the primary compressor.
I wonder who made the decision to discontinue the compressor rentals that were needed just to keep snowmaking capacity at the same level as prior management had felt was necessary?
In the past we rented 5 diesel compressors, this electric compressor has about the same capacity of 3 diesel machines, so this year we will only rent 2 diesels and use the electric as the primary compressor.
I wonder who made the decision to discontinue the compressor rentals that were needed just to keep snowmaking capacity at the same level as prior management had felt was necessary?
VTKilarney
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I think it was taken down because it was embarrassingly idiotic to put up in the first place.
With what???? I suspect that they are running at full capacity with what they have on hand. Somewhere along the way management under Quiros decided to have LESS snowmaking capacity (as far as compressors are concerned) than they had in the past. In other words, they made a conscious decision to take a step BACKWARD. We are now seeing the stupidity of that decision. It's more surprising that we are seeing it this year when you realize how inadequate snowmaking was during the first half of the last ski season.
At a bare minimum, they need to increase their snowmaking capacity during the off-season and be loud and clear that they have done so. If they don't, they risk a negative impact on hotel occupancy during the first half of the season. This problem also affects condo values, local businesses, etc. At some point they need to stop relying on BMA and condo owners to bring bodies to the mountain. They need to learn how to walk on their own. Cutting snowmaking capacity after a dismal start to the previous season isn't how you do it.
VTKilarney
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This picture that was posted by a ski area guest on Facebook really shows the problem. The whole east side of the mountain is cut off from the MBX and snowmaking in this area isn't even in the plans that have been announced.
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OK, THAT is unacceptable right there. Wow.
I'd be a bit more :roll: instead of :x with their idiocy if they HAD the same compressor power and staffing as before. I might just say that he is an idiot, but the ski area is at least on par with what they were. Now they are back to before 1995 or so at least. Sheer stupidity.
Well, they need to REPLACE what they LOST and THEN increase capacity before they have anything to crow about.
They've got a Grateful Dead cover band playing on NYE. That would've been right up my alley if the skiing was any good there right now. :lol:
Oh well. Hold onto my voucher until later in the season and hope for the best in terms of natural.
Oh well. Hold onto my voucher until later in the season and hope for the best in terms of natural.
from_the_NEK
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The thing with Burke is that it take relatively little natural snow to open quite a few trails. It may be management made a decision to "save money" by gambling on nature.
Unfortunately, mother nature is finicky and has more often than not melted the natural down to ice at least once a winter over the years.
Any New England ski area that thinks it can get by on natural snow is setting itself up for disaster (although MRG actually does surprisingly well with this strategy
) .
Unfortunately, mother nature is finicky and has more often than not melted the natural down to ice at least once a winter over the years.
Any New England ski area that thinks it can get by on natural snow is setting itself up for disaster (although MRG actually does surprisingly well with this strategy
) .
Tin
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VTKilarney
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First, your picture of St. Johnsbury is incredible. Second, that camera lens costs more than the GDP of Burkina Faso.
If it is the Canon one, they are not that badly priced. I have a 55-200 mm IS lens and it is nice but not that expensive.
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