Big Burke announcement

[MEtoVTSkier]

This one may catch it...

We're working on it, give us time! ;-)

 

[MEtoVTSkier]

They deleted all of the comments.

I don't think so, they are still all coming up for me just as they were last night.

 

[VTKilarney]

I don't think so, they are still all coming up for me just as they were last night.

Hmm.. that's weird. I spoke to another person who agreed that they were deleted. The post I am talking about is the one that starts with; "THANK YOU to all the skiers and riders that bundled up and enjoyed our mountain today!"

 

[VTKilarney]

A better view of Upper Warren's Way:

 

[deadheadskier]

Yeah, that one had a comment deleted from a season pass holder questioning their snowmaking

There's another comment from yesterday with 10 responses that have not been deleted. That might be the one they deleted their own sophomoric Meme insertion.

 

[VTKilarney]

Yeah, that one had a comment deleted from a season pass holder questioning their snowmaking

There's another comment from yesterday with 10 responses that have not been deleted. That might be the one they deleted their own sophomoric Meme insertion.

Exactly. The first comment you referred to had about seven replies from other passholders. Those are all gone now too.

The other thread still has the comments there, except for the meme that the Events Coordinator posted.

 

[deadheadskier]

I missed the other six they deleted. The one I did see was very respectful. If it was me who made that comment as a season pass holder and they deleted it, I'd sincerely question how much they value my business.

 

[MEtoVTSkier]

Ooops, thought you were talking about the next one down. I can't remember what the responses were to the upper one last night. But once again... this mornings post is geared towards the nightlife options, and not the skiing and riding that come first this morning!

 

[VTKilarney]

This was predictable. Someone just posted:
I think that it is very dishonest of you to take down any posts that you consider negative and only leave the positive posts. All business's should be able to accept a little constructive criticism. Toughen Up Burke! Listen to what your customers have to say. I thought the "Q" in Burke stood for Quality!

Burke is never going to win at a game of whack-a-mole.

 

[MEtoVTSkier]

A better view of Upper Warren's Way:

That's pretty ugly, especially for a training slope. The BMA must barely be able to get adequate training in. That slope would be a perfect candidate to be lined with automated fan guns ala Crotched...

 

[VTKilarney]

That's pretty ugly, especially for a training slope. The BMA must barely be able to get adequate training in. That slope would be a perfect candidate to be lined with automated fan guns ala Crotched...

If you look at the tree line on the right hand side you can see a bunch of snow guns. If only they could get air and water to those guns...

 

[MEtoVTSkier]

Yeah, saw them, was just trying to take the air out of the equation, I thought that there was a more than adequate water supply?

 

[VTKilarney]

Yeah, saw them, was just trying to take the air out of the equation, I thought that there was a more than adequate water supply?

You are correct. Water supply is not the issue.

 

[thetrailboss]

A better view of Upper Warren's Way:

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FWIW they normally don't open Upper Warren's until after the Christmas Holidays. I would imagine that the lack of air will surely slow down progress on that stretch of trail. That trail requires a lot of cover.

 

[SkiRaceParent]

FWIW they normally don't open Upper Warren's until after the Christmas Holidays. I would imagine that the lack of air will surely slow down progress on that stretch of trail. That trail requires a lot of cover.

Correct, BMA usually only gets snow blown up to the fire road until early Jan, some years later. However, I find the snowmaking on the rest of the mountain massively dissapointing like the rest of you. I can't believe they haven't touch dippers, it's why I ski!

 

[VTKilarney]

How long do you think it will take to get the Dippers open from top to bottom once they start blowing there? Based on the fact that they are only going to blow on Lower Willoughby, I am guessing that they can only blow on half of the Dippers at a time.

 

[SkiRaceParent]

How long do you think it will take to get the Dippers open from top to bottom once they start blowing there? Based on the fact that they are only going to blow on Lower Willoughby, I am guessing that they can only blow on half of the Dippers at a time.

Dippers is giant, I'd be surprised if they could get that open in less than a week from now. But then again, I'm not an expert on this and only going off of jogging my memory from previous years. I imagine they could blow on only half at a time, if that. It may actually be set-up more in thirds. Perhaps Trailboss knows better.

 

[VTKilarney]

From what I observed, there appears to be a shift in pass holder feeling. The pass holders were willing to move past the snowmaking woes of last season, but aren't willing to ignore the fact that the problem has repeated.

This has a lot of similarities to Wildcat last year. Wildcat seemed to handle the situation well (at least eventually). They were up front about the snowmaking problems, they held a pass holder town meeting, and they came out with a plan to remedy the situation. While snowmaking could still be improved at Wildcat, they have double the trails that Burke has right now.

If Q Burke is smart, they will take a page from Wildcat. It would help ease the tension that is quickly brewing. They key is that they can't just assume that they will be able to talk their way out of the problem. They need to come up with a plan - but they also need to make people believe that they will implement the plan. People haven't forgotten the promises that were made last year - which is why they are becoming so upset right now.

 

[thetrailboss]

From what I observed, there appears to be a shift in pass holder feeling. The pass holders were willing to move past the snowmaking woes of last season, but aren't willing to ignore the fact that the problem has repeated.

This has a lot of similarities to Wildcat last year. Wildcat seemed to handle the situation well (at least eventually). They were up front about the snowmaking problems, they held a pass holder town meeting, and they came out with a plan to remedy the situation. While snowmaking could still be improved at Wildcat, they have double the trails that Burke has right now.

If Q Burke is smart, they will take a page from Wildcat. It would help ease the tension that is quickly brewing. They key is that they can't just assume that they will be able to talk their way out of the problem. They need to come up with a plan - but they also need to make people believe that they will implement the plan. People haven't forgotten the promises that were made last year - which is why they are becoming so upset right now.

I think we have seen that they just don't care. If they were acting logically they would have quietly made changes to remedy their mistakes. Instead they have dug their heels in and just continued doing what they are doing. Little General needs to declare victory and get out.

 

[VTKilarney]

Can anyone explain this? Burke claims to have 267 acres of skiable terrain. They have 8 out of 36 trails open. At the same time, they claim that they have 135 skiable acres open.