Big Burke announcement

[River19]

Well here's hoping they bang out the interior work. I wonder if the plan is to open with a % of the rooms/suites completed and a portion still as WIP.

 

[thetrailboss]

Well here's hoping they bang out the interior work. I wonder if the plan is to open with a % of the rooms/suites completed and a portion still as WIP.

It seems that despite their PR that this has been the plan with the wing on skier's right opening first. I base that on how work has progressed.....at least what we can observe.

 

[VTKilarney]

There are still rooms available for Christmas week.


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[VTKilarney]

Here is a very recent construction update.

http://qburke.com/our-direction/development-updates/october-hotel-development-updates/


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[thetrailboss]

Here is a very recent construction update.

http://qburke.com/our-direction/development-updates/october-hotel-development-updates/


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Nice pics. Looking good.

 

[from_the_NEK]

Nice pics. Looking good.

Progress is indeed being made. The last picture even has the bridge from the parking area visible.

I wonder what local artists they chose to hang on the walls in the rooms?

 

[VTKilarney]

Progress is indeed being made. The last picture even has the bridge from the parking area visible.

I wonder what local artists they chose to hang on the walls in the rooms?

Do we know that they chose any local artists? Maybe they said they had but I missed it.

 

[thetrailboss]

Progress is indeed being made. The last picture even has the bridge from the parking area visible.

I wonder what local artists they chose to hang on the walls in the rooms?

No doubt that the artwork will be pictures of Q, Q-2, their family, and of all their awesome accomplishments. Only look at every single sign in the place and you can see that it is more a tribute to the awesomeness of Q instead of having any connection to the local area.

On a serious note, I think that would be a good question for the last regime that would have done a nice job connecting with the community and its craftsfolk. But I know that a lot of NEK artists don't want anything to do with him. So I would expect SOME Vermont art but probably stuff that was bought through other outlets.

 

[VTKilarney]

I know of at least one local artist who very much wants to have a commercial relationship with the Q dynasty. You don't have to look too far...

 

[thetrailboss]

I know of at least one local artist who very much wants to have a commercial relationship with the Q dynasty. You don't have to look to far...


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I know one as well, but I also know several that don't (including one who was "informed" by Q that his handcrafted Burke Mountain mugs needed to be changed to "Q Burke Mountain" mugs).

 

[VTKilarney]

You are correct. The example I referred to is the RARE exception.

 

[AdironRider]

I know one as well, but I also know several that don't (including one who was "informed" by Q that his handcrafted Burke Mountain mugs needed to be changed to "Q Burke Mountain" mugs).

So they don't want the business?

I have no qualms with artistic integrity but it often is a large part of why they are "starving" artists.

 

[thetrailboss]

So they don't want the business?

I have no qualms with artistic integrity but it often is a large part of why they are "starving" artists.

They don't want the "Q-attitude".

 

[AdironRider]

Fair enough, I've told plenty of guys who want to sell my wares to pound sand.

But I probably wouldn't tell the mountain I design mugs after, and am completely reliant upon for the most part, to pound sand.

Basically, like any business does, you put up with some more shit from your biggest clients, as opposed to someone who wants to buy three of them and put them in their little boutique.

 

[VTKilarney]

You are failing to realize something. If you re-design a mug to prominently feature a "Q", the mug is not going to sell. So now you've made a product that won't sell, and alienated the local stores selling locally crafted products.

That's not a very good business strategy.

 

[AdironRider]

I highly doubt this artist is selling on consignment. In this scenario, Q is the sole customer.

It would be Q's problem if they didn't sell, not the artists. They can always just sell the regular Burke mugs to other venues, but who do you think is going to place the largest order? Q.

Telling your biggest customer to pound sand is not a very strong business strategy.

 

[VTKilarney]

If the mugs don't sell, Burke isn't going to be your biggest customer in the long run.

 

[AdironRider]

So you seriously think she is making a strong business decision. Get your emotions of Q out of the picture and its a bad move.

I don't think anyone is arguing that Q Burke is a better brand, but it currently is THE brand. If this artist wants to sell just a few mugs to a few boutiques in the economic powerhouse known as the NEK, so be it. But on a pure business level, its the wrong decision.

 

[thetrailboss]

Fair enough, I've told plenty of guys who want to sell my wares to pound sand.

But I probably wouldn't tell the mountain I design mugs after, and am completely reliant upon for the most part, to pound sand.

Basically, like any business does, you put up with some more shit from your biggest clients, as opposed to someone who wants to buy three of them and put them in their little boutique.

Said products were NOT sold on the mountain but in town at independent shops. Q was NOT even a customer, but decided to contact the artist to say that the items needed to say "Q Burke Mountain" because that was the mountain's name. Hence why Q was not well received. That is true about a lot of other crafts and products based on BURKE Mountain in that they are NOT sold at the mountain but in town and around the community and Q's belief that it is Q Burke Mountain.

When I went to the Mountain's shop in March they had very little in terms of "local" products. Some maple syrup, some food, some pewter figurines of Burkie Bear made by a Burlington craftsman, but none of these products.

 

[thetrailboss]

Nice article about the Burke Ski Swap and its history:

http://caledonianrecord.com/main.asp?SectionID=180&SubSectionID=778&ArticleID=138891

It's this weekend FWIW.