steamboat1
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Oh there's my buddy. How'd I know he'd pop in?
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Big Burke announcement
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What can I say? My trolling skills are not nearly as good as yours.
Back on point: seriously hope that the Hotel debacle does work itself out. Hope that they get a good manager for the Hotel and have a decent year. Also hope that they get some cold weather for the new fanguns. Really hope that the ownership can convince a certain son to move onto other challenges in his life and that they give the nod to an experienced management team that can now make the mountain exceed its potential.
Thanks to TOTB for sending me this wonderful promo video extolling the beauty of BURKE and BURKE MOUNTAIN. No mention of Q anywhere......
dlague
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Thanks for sharing! That was well done.
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mbedle
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Correct me if I am wrong, but did the promo video even acknowledge Q Burke Mountain Resort or at least even the resort? Every other business got mentioned. Bad move, nothing like biting the hand that feeds you.
VTKilarney
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According to the video Burke is famous for its apres. Who knew!
Smellytele
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It did mention Burke Mountain just not the Q part. It said "Burke is all about Burke Mountain"
SIKSKIER
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Real nice video.Famous for its apres?OK
They mention and feature the mountain, just not Q. He obviously did not really help them. No doubt he is working on his own video right now with techno music
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I think you will find that it is Ary that has chosen (from the beginning) to bite the hand that feeds him (the community, Kingdom Trails, etc, etc) in so many ways !
Was just going to say that. Both had a decent symbiotic relationship that could have been really rewarding the last couple years. Instead we see Q videos of empty restaurants, empty Apres Ski parties, contests where about half of the competitors are staff (what is left of the staff), and you see pages of want ads for the mountain. It doesn't have to be this way.
I would also argue, that the the hand that feeds the businesses of Burke in a 12month period start with KT leading the way. The town is much much busier during the MTB months than the skiing months ever have been. Ever. In fact, during the heart of winter to me, it always feels like the whole place is asleep comparatively speaking.
That being said, the ski mountain has the potential to be much better and is heading that way however Q has provided his own headwinds so to speak.
VTKilarney
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They are still taking reservations for December 11 and onward. If they don't open on time, that's a sure fire way to piss people off unnecessarily.
MEtoVTSkier
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I'd assume that they'll still open on time, on the 11th, but everything will still be "a work in progress" and they will try to spin it as positive as possible. As they should.
mbedle
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I guess I was thinking that with this hotel and conference center going in, the owners of Q Burke think a little different about how dependent they are on the Burke community. I would even step out on a limb to say that they are doing this work at Burke to remove any significant dependency on their survival as a business, on the local community. I wouldn't say that residences in the Burke community are going to be renting $300/night hotel rooms at the resort. I also doubt that they will be holding their annual christmas parties at the resort. May sound cold hearted, but Q Burke's eyesights are set on attracting out of town clientele to a destination resort. While, albeit done very badly, maintaining a good relationship with the surrounding businesses and locals. I also found it odd that they produced a tourism video for the Burke area and failed to mention one of the biggest draws to the area by its name. Its even worst when you think that Q Burke will most likely be the largest tax payer in the community. I am guessing that was done on purpose, but seems counter-intuitive.
I would take that as an indication of how the community feels towards the current ownership group. Screwing the area schools etc.tends to rub the movers and shakers of a community the wrong way.
Here's the thing.....from May through October (ie 50% of the year) the mountain is a distant second in draws to the area. Without KT, the bike park would probably not get nearly the ridership it does even now. In the summer, no one goes up the mountain to spend their beer money up there (see the Tiki bar et al). So if they are going to make it work for the summer, it will largely be from wedding revenue and the odd corporation that might have an event there. Given how openly hostile VT can be to larger corporations, I'm trying to figure out what companies of size would book a convention center at Burke. Why bypass the hundreds of other worthy options elsewhere closer to said corporation?
There is still a large rift between the community and Q.....that video is subtle evidence of that.
The mountain will work potentially, but not like it could have with better relations with the locals.
As for taxes, hasn't Q already been trying to duck out of some of those as well?
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