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Big Burke announcement

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I think that the old Burke would have at least had the Poma going by now.

Early season of 2006 was terrible as well. They got Lower Warrens Way open by December 16th.

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That's a really nice hole they have there. Very attractive, nice view, gives downtown a real "open" feel. Must have been done by the same folks who brought us the Filene's hole in Boston.


Several weeks ago we visited relatives up there and took a look at it! It is on a time limit before it gets turned into a park if nothing gets built.


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$2.85 million. That will potentially pale in comparison to what the EB-5 investors will have to pay for it. Remember the obscene profit that Ariel Quiros made on the AnC Bio land? The state has finally woken up and is demanding an independent appraisal.
 

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So does stenger have any credibility left? I mean outside of this board. He used to carry a lot of weight and respect in the NEK, has he thrown that away or are the "everyday people" still believers in his epic load of horse sh!t?

I'm inclined to think that his problem was that he had to marry the devil in order to get any of his business expansions done. In other words, he had to partner up with Q. If I had to guess Q is the source of a lot of the problems. Stenger himself is very optimistic, wait, overly optimistic. But that alone is not the problem.


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Q Burke was able to make snow last night. For the first time this season they lit up the fan guns on Warren's Way. You know... the fan guns that were supposed to help so much. The fan guns that were supposed to free up compressed air for snowmaking elsewhere.

The numbers are in. The TOTAL number of snowmaking guns they got going for snowmaking last night was 17. Yup. 17.
 
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All 17 fan guns were fired up by 7pm last night on Warren's Way training hill and Midway. Our night crew was expecting temperatures to drop so we could run snow making on the Bear Den trail simultaneously but they never got there. Instead, they focused on Warren's Way to get as much snow down as possible during this window. Projected opening day is Friday, December 18th.
 

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Was there an inversion last night? Warren's Way is below Bear Den.

And if there was an inversion, whey didn't they get some portable guns going on Warren's Way?

EDIT: Looking at the temps for Mt. Washington last night, it does not appear that there was an inversion. I really can't understand why they failed to get guns going on Bear Den.
 

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Was there an inversion last night? Warren's Way is below Bear Den.

And if there was an inversion, whey didn't they get some portable guns going on Warren's Way?

EDIT: Looking at the temps for Mt. Washington last night, it does not appear that there was an inversion. I really can't understand why they failed to get guns going on Bear Den.

The temps between 2500 and 3000 feet have been pretty marginal for snow making. It may have dipped below freezing last night at some point but probably not long enough to make much snow.

But why not fire up the guns on Lower Willoughby instead? That is a high priority trail when it comes to connecting to the lower mtn. Start building some stockpiles while the temps are decent then you don't have to mess around on that trail later when you need to be pumping out snow on the Dippers or somewhere else.
My guess is the bare bones crew had their hands full keeping the 17 fans guns operating effectively.
 

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My guess is the bare bones crew had their hands full keeping the 17 fans guns operating effectively.
Good point.

The bottom line is that snowmaking windows are precious for the next few days. The main advantage of the fan guns is that they free up snowmaking capacity elsewhere on the mountain. The river is running much higher, so there was absolutely no excuse for failing to take advantage of this snowmaking window. But as usual they, at best, limped along.
 

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The temps between 2500 and 3000 feet have been pretty marginal for snow making. It may have dipped below freezing last night at some point but probably not long enough to make much snow.

But why not fire up the guns on Lower Willoughby instead? That is a high priority trail when it comes to connecting to the lower mtn. Start building some stockpiles while the temps are decent then you don't have to mess around on that trail later when you need to be pumping out snow on the Dippers or somewhere else.
My guess is the bare bones crew had their hands full keeping the 17 fans guns operating effectively.

Pole mounted fan guns usually are computer controlled and usually no one is needed actually out on the mountain.
 

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Pole mounted fan guns usually are computer controlled and usually no one is needed actually out on the mountain.

This is also the first time actually hammering out snow with them for an extended period. So they may have had the snowmaking personnel around to make tweaks to the system. Although a computerized system should only require one person sitting at a terminal to tweak.
 

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Does anyone have a visual as to how much snow they made on Warren's Way last night? I'm curious about how the new fan guns performed.

I just looked at the ten day forecast. Depressing... I'm now worried about how much snow they will lose, not just whether or not snow can be made.
 
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