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Looking at glimpses of the audience from the photos posted on Facebook, I am guessing that there were between twenty and thirty people in attendance. But it's really just a guess. It's definitely clear that the audience was very light.

The timing of the event was pretty rough. It was the day after Christmas at a closed ski resort. The weather definitely did not help.

They don't seem to use events as a way to generate excitement for the mountain. They seem to insist that they be money-makers on their own. For example, they are charging $10 per person ($20 for a family of four) for a presentation about owls tonight. I'll pass on that one.

EDIT: They just cancelled the owl event.

So they cancelled the owl event. That means that, during a crucial holiday week for them and the condo owners, NOTHING is going on up at the mountain. Sad, very sad. At least TRY to do something.
 

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An Owl event?

Gingerbread house contests?

Comedians to an empty house?

Oh, look February is loaded end to end with....well, the Super Bowl at the Tamarack......well at least the Super Bowl won't be canceled. Perhaps they should change the link from "Events" to "Event".......

I don't want to keep kicking them when their down.......finding the positive.......they found water.....they have 20 to 35 snow guns making snow.......BMA has gas money to bus their racers to other mountains with snow making capability.....and the hotel could possibly be open in February provided they can find people to work in it.....and technically the hotel is only slightly over a month overdue to open at this point......what else could possibly go wrong right?

I bet you condos are selling like hotcakes before a marathon, right?
 

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Did anyone see the cartoon they posted to their Facebook page a few days ago as "holiday humor"? The comments are all negative. I am sure that some people found it funny, but only a moron would fail to understand that there are lots of people out there who wouldn't find it amusing.

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Did anyone see the cartoon they posted to their Facebook page a few days ago as "holiday humor"? The comments are all negative. I am sure that some people found it funny, but only a moron would fail to understand that there are lots of people out there who wouldn't find it amusing.

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Jeebus......that is pretty friggin' questionable even for someone as sick as I am
 

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yup-- tasteless. But TOTALLY in character. I would have posted this when I was 17 years old. But with some seasoning and many lessons in marketing learned the hard way it looks like a really dumb post.

This last weekend their ticket selling staff was told they should not open the customer service office over the weekend. SO, you can ski free at Jay with a Burke pass but Q'dumb was planning to make it so folks w/o passes could not get passes over the first weekend of the holiday break. Fortunately, one of their staff stepped up and said she would man the office from 9-2 on Saturday and Sunday. I do not know about Saturday, but she was quite busy on Sunday. You cannot make this stuff up.


Did anyone see the cartoon they posted to their Facebook page a few days ago as "holiday humor"? The comments are all negative. I am sure that some people found it funny, but only a moron would fail to understand that there are lots of people out there who wouldn't find it amusing.

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Comedians to an empty house?
Don't despair. Here is the next act coming to comedy night:

"Best known as the guitarist and drummer from the hysterical World Gone Crazy Comedy Band, Joe Long and Gary Marino began performing as a duo in 2014 as "Sauce-n-Cheese", hosting comedy shows, fundraisers and resort shows. Which one is Sauce and which one is Cheese? They'll never tell! But they do preform popular song parodies and impressions from the side splitting World Gone Crazy Show as well as stand up, fake commercials and audience interactive trivia and fun!"

I took a look at a promotional video on Youtube, and let's just say that I'm not calling for tickets. They sing song parodies such as "I get by with a little help from Depends" (sung to the Beatles tune "I get by with a little help from my friends"). Wacky stuff!
 

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yup-- tasteless. But TOTALLY in character. I would have posted this when I was 17 years old. But with some seasoning and many lessons in marketing learned the hard way it looks like a really dumb post.

This last weekend their ticket selling staff was told they should not open the customer service office over the weekend. SO, you can ski free at Jay with a Burke pass but Q'dumb was planning to make it so folks w/o passes could not get passes over the first weekend of the holiday break. Fortunately, one of their staff stepped up and said she would man the office from 9-2 on Saturday and Sunday. I do not know about Saturday, but she was quite busy on Sunday. You cannot make this stuff up.

Sounds about right for that crew.
 

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yup-- tasteless. But TOTALLY in character. I would have posted this when I was 17 years old. But with some seasoning and many lessons in marketing learned the hard way it looks like a really dumb post.
If I ran a ski resort and my marketing manager posted this, it would have been removed and there would have been an instant apology posted on Facebook. My marketing manager would be looking for a new job as well. I'm all for giving people chances, but there has to be a least a baseline of competency first.
 

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If I ran a ski resort and my marketing manager posted this, it would have been removed and there would have been an instant apology posted on Facebook. My marketing manager would be looking for a new job as well. I'm all for giving people chances, but there has to be a least a baseline of competency first.

If I had to guess, considering that their PR person (Jessica) seems to be doing a good job and is really trying to be diplomatic, I would presume that Q himself went on and posted this stupid post. He likes doing stuff like that I hear.
 

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any insight into what has gone wrong on the training hill?

a) only have water pump capacity for 25 to 30 guns? thus cannot run the air/water guns and the fans at the same time?

b) not enough electrical service for the big electric air compressor and the fans?

c) pumping water from the river to the pond cannot service both?

d) something is broken on the training hill?

e) they have not had the instructions on the fans guns printed yet?


It is all well and good to say that BMA is OK to wait until the 4th or 5th. But IF they open, perhaps some of their clients would like more than one white stripe of death available?

frustrating.
 

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If I had to guess, considering that their PR person (Jessica) seems to be doing a good job and is really trying to be diplomatic, I would presume that Q himself went on and posted this stupid post. He likes doing stuff like that I hear.

That would explain why it's still there.


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any insight into what has gone wrong on the training hill?

a) only have water pump capacity for 25 to 30 guns? thus cannot run the air/water guns and the fans at the same time?

b) not enough electrical service for the big electric air compressor and the fans?

c) pumping water from the river to the pond cannot service both?

d) something is broken on the training hill?

e) they have not had the instructions on the fans guns printed yet?


It is all well and good to say that BMA is OK to wait until the 4th or 5th. But IF they open, perhaps some of their clients would like more than one white stripe of death available?

frustrating.

Hard telling since I am not there or in the know on that one. Good inferences might be lack of cold and dry enough air, lack of staff to do it, and lack of $$$$ to run them.
 

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Hard telling since I am not there or in the know on that one. Good inferences might be lack of cold and dry enough air, lack of staff to do it, and lack of $$$$ to run them.

It was more than cold enough last night this morning. They are only saying they got 3" snowfall so far... another warmup later in the week. Let's face it, Ary just doesn't want to open bad enough.

Coverage still looks thin approaching the MBx. You'd think the smart know-it-all owner would want to absolutely bury that area in front of the webcam around the lift and in front of the new lodge, one for advertisement, and two, so they wouldn't have to go back and re-do thin cover.
 
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It was more than cold enough last night this morning. They are only saying they got 3" snowfall so far... another warmup later in the week. Let's face it, Ary just doesn't want to open bad enough.
As critical as I am of Q Burke, they have blown lots of snow that they had to realize would melt. (Compare Burke to Magic Mountain, who has yet to blow any snow). I see this as more a complete lack of adequate infrastructure.
 

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As critical as I am of Q Burke, they have blown lots of snow that they had to realize would melt. (Compare Burke to Magic Mountain, who has yet to blow any snow). I see this as more a complete lack of adequate infrastructure.

Does he fill the pool with a hose, or with pails of water...
 

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It was more than cold enough last night this morning. They are only saying they got 3" snowfall so far... another warmup later in the week. Let's face it, Ary just doesn't want to open bad enough.

Coverage still looks thin approaching the MBx. You'd think the smart know-it-all owner would want to absolutely bury that area in front of the webcam around the lift and in front of the new lodge, one for advertisement, and two, so they wouldn't have to go back and re-do thin cover.

You struck the nail on the head. One thing that has been consistent is that Ary DOESN'T CARE about running the resort as it should and investing any money or effort at all. His measure of success is how much of Daddy's money he saved and did not spend. He has taken this approach with every decision--retain a qualified management team or fire them all and save the money? Save the money. Rent compressors for snowmaking or save money? Save money. Keep existing benefits for employees or save money? Save money. Take care of BMA or save money? Save money. Keep a great relationship with KT or fight over a petty amount of money? Money.

They are in this to flip it. They don't care at all about the community or the past.
 

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Just got the latest update. This line stood out:

Although we have a commitment to BMA to get their training hill online, given the unusual weather challenges we have faced they understand the importance of getting atleast one trail open for public use during this Holiday week. We have made a significant amount of snow on the training hill already and feel confident we can have that lane open by Monday.
 

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Just got the latest update. This line stood out:

Yep, saw that and just shook my head. Never happen without Snowfall help, and still might not happen with it melting out from underneath. The pictures don't lie, they didn't put as much down as they thought they did. Once groomed, it would be very thin.

After they drive a stake thru the heart of the Monster that is sucking the life out of Burke, First thing should be take control of the Fanguns, and the Poma. ABOSOLUTEY FRIGGEN BURY the training slope. Get BMA going, GO to every school, college, university within a reasonable travel distance, and offer them an ALMOST free deal to come train and use the Training Slope and Poma (No, not the whole mountain, just the training area) Get as much as a positive vibe going as possible with this. If the people are happy, they will spread the word, and day tix and passes for the rest of the mountain will start selling themselves. Make it so people WANT to be there again.
 
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