Big Burke announcement

[thetrailboss]

This.

Agreed. Plus the steep terrain just does not make a HSQ to the top realistic.

 

[Sheave Head]

This.

Also the tram can run in higher winds then a HSQ and let's not pretend that isn't a problem there

 

[MG Skier]

Having been alone on the Flyer/Freezer on a windy day, wind is a major concern.

 

[fbrissette]

Having been alone on the Flyer/Freezer on a windy day, wind is a major concern.

I was stuck alone for 15 minutes on a -40 wind chill day. I was starting to seriously fear for my life when the chair finally started again.

 

[thetrailboss]

I was stuck alone for 15 minutes on a -40 wind chill day. I was starting to seriously fear for my life when the chair finally started again.

Sounds like a scene from this (lousy) ski movie:

 

[fbrissette]

Wow. I come I've never heard of this before????

 

[thetrailboss]

Wow. I come I've never heard of this before????

Because it was a TERRIBLE movie. Supposed to be set in New England....yet it was filmed at Snowbasin, Utah.

 

[cdskier]

That looks terrible on so many levels. I never heard of it either. Did none of them have cell phones? Did ski patrol not sweep or visually check the lift line? Maybe these questions were answered in the movie...but I'm not about to watch it to find out!

 

[from_the_NEK]

That looks terrible on so many levels. I never heard of it either. Did none of them have cell phones? Did ski patrol not sweep or visually check the lift line? Maybe these questions were answered in the movie...but I'm not about to watch it to find out!

It is pretty unrealistic on just about every level. :smash:

 

[BenedictGomez]

You mean making $2 million or so a year off of a $350 million investment isn't so hot?

Something like that, yes.

As much as I hate the tram, and I do hate the tram, wouldn't a high speed quad put way too many skiers on the top of the mountain?

You do the high speed quad to St. George's prayer (this way intermediates are better served and the top doesnt get scraped off).

Then you have a short double either from near the top of that quad or from near the Flyer unload to the top.

Having a double so folks can actually enjoy Green Beret, Valhalla, and other aspects up there would be phenomenal, and greatly improve JP's total skiability.

The reality is, the Tram stinks, and anyone who disagrees is worse than Hitler.

 

[Edd]

Something like that, yes.



You do the high speed quad to St. George's prayer (this way intermediates are better served and the top doesnt get scraped off).

Then you have a short double either from near the top of that quad or from near the Flyer unload to the top.

Having a double so folks can actually enjoy Green Beret, Valhalla, and other aspects up there would be phenomenal, and greatly improve JP's total skiability.

The reality is, the Tram stinks, and anyone who disagrees is worse than Hitler.

Yeah, I hate it too. It sure looks cool, but the wait times make no sense to me.

 

[thetrailboss]

Something like that, yes.



You do the high speed quad to St. George's prayer (this way intermediates are better served and the top doesnt get scraped off).

Then you have a short double either from near the top of that quad or from near the Flyer unload to the top.

Having a double so folks can actually enjoy Green Beret, Valhalla, and other aspects up there would be phenomenal, and greatly improve JP's total skiability.

The reality is, the Tram stinks, and anyone who disagrees is worse than Hitler.

That would be back to the future....

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[fbrissette]

Yeah, I hate it too. It sure looks cool, but the wait times make no sense to me.

Especially since most people wait and proceed to ski the Vermonter or Northway.
To wait 30 minutes and ski upper Northway should be punishable by law.

 

[BenedictGomez]

That would be back to the future....

Exactly; it's such a ridiculously obvious concept, that it's obvious why it was originally the concept.

Especially since most people wait and proceed to ski the Vermonter or Northway.
To wait 30 minutes and ski upper Northway should be punishable by law.

The Jay Peak Tram crowd are not what one calls, "savvy" skiers.

Tram skiers are the people who leave their skis on the ground in congested traffic base areas while they take 2 hour lunches, and attach lift tickets to their center zipper (thank god for RFID).

 

[SIKSKIER]

No, it really didn't.

What it brings are transient, short-term jobs, and many of which aren't even filled by locals of the depressed area as is intended. The "many full-time" long-term jobs thing, is the BS that the pols feed you so that you believe this is a great thing.



Ullr knew the Quiros-crew was no good, and he wrought his punishment on the mountains!

I was more refering to Jay than Burke.There are certainly many year round jobs that have been created at Jay through this whole eb-5 debacle.

 

[BenedictGomez]

I was more refering to Jay than Burke.There are certainly many year round jobs that have been created at Jay through this whole eb-5 debacle.

No there haven't. First, I'd disagree with that premise entirely.

But even if you disagree as you do, there are clearly not nearly enough jobs as required by the program to justify the egregious sums involved here. Show me the "thousands" (literally) of new full-time jobs in an around Orleans County. The counting is so fraudulent it's insulting to the general public's intelligence.

 

[fbrissette]

No there haven't. First, I'd disagree with that premise entirely.

But even if you disagree as you do, there are clearly not nearly enough jobs as required by the program to justify the egregious sums involved here. Show me the "thousands" (literally) of new full-time jobs in an around Orleans County. The counting is so fraudulent it's insulting to the general public's intelligence.

You are wrong and right. Jay Peak used to have 30 employees in the summer. Now it's several hundreds. Many year-round jobs have indeed been created. Still far from the few thousands it was supposed to create however.

 

[thetrailboss]

So back to Burke. Any word as to if Electric Mike or Ary have been shown the door?

 

[Smellytele]

That would be back to the future....

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This should be done even with the tram being fixed

 

[from_the_NEK]

Goldberg says they are going to start changing the signage to drop the "Q"! Interesting that they would take on that expense.
(I'm listening to the press conference http://www.wcax.com/story/24396596/watch-live-coverage-onwcaxcom)