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Big Burke announcement
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Oh it's true. They have been pushing to be the first with a carbon tax and to increase taxes on fossil fuels to reduce demand. When asked about the poor, the response is a blank stare.
Egad, back to Burke.
Now back on topic...this looks better:
BenedictGomez
Well-known member
Is that new? Already? If so, these guys don't mess around, I like it.
from_the_NEK
Active member
Existing sign with the "Q" logo taken off of it.
Most other signs will not be so easy to "fix".
from_the_NEK
Active member
Although a very reliable source on the Friends of Burke FB group just post that
I almost hope Q Jr is still around to witness the physical removal of the "Q".
I almost hope Q Jr is still around to witness the physical removal of the "Q".
Oh it was an easy fix I am sure.
mbedle
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The only problem I have with that is none of the problems with this resort have anything to do with the actually name of the resort or the stupid logo. A simple gesture to appease people, with no real purpose to improve the resort's situation.
BenedictGomez
Well-known member
Perhaps, but it's a "sign" (no pun intended) and symbolic of change. It needs to be done.
mbedle
Well-known member
Agree with you there. I guess I am the type of guy that just doesn't need something done for a symbolic reason. I think you actually just said something like - "its putting lipstick on a pig". Thats kind of what I think about getting rid of the Q at this point and not waiting until after the new owners take over. No matter what - the Q was ultimately going to get dropped from the name and logos. And I can guarantee the new owners will elect to not change it again.
from_the_NEK
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How exactly does appeasing the locals and a good share of southern New Englanders who frequent(ed) Burke who have been completely alienated by the "Q" not improve the resort's situation? With the "Q" gone both physically and symbolically, people are going to feel a lot better about spending their money at Burke (me included).
I think this will really help boost summer attendance at summer activities at the mountain this year.
fbrissette
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BenedictGomez
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1) I rejected his premise that "several hundreds" of FTEs were created to begin with.
So there's that important fact....., but regardless of that,
2) As I prior noted, when "several thousand" is your bogey, even "several hundred" (which I doubt) is a complete, and utter, failure.
In other words, several hundred, even if true, is economically trivial against plan, trivial against funding, trivial against......this sorry trainwreck.
mbedle
Well-known member
Removing Quiros from the ownership should make you and everybody else feel a lot better. I did, nor do not disagree with that. I just don't get hung up on the name of the resort - it is not something that means anything to me. If a new owner came in and purchased Stowe and called it Q Stowe - it would not, in anyway, change my love for the place. Put it this way - if Quirus came in and spent 20 million on snow making, and ran the resort good and had the hotel open, and didn't fire anyone and whatever else everyone has a gripe with - would the issue with the name "Q" be a big deal? I would say not, but maybe to some people that would be enough to not support the resort. That is just how I feel about it.
But he didn't do any of that. So that is moot. Also be sure to read:
https://www.saminfo.com/best-worst-in-marketing/4273-best-worst-marketing-2013-14
mbedle
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Do you really believe that they haven't generated several hundred of new jobs at Jay peak? And, as I posted earlier, it doesn't matter how many jobs they created at Jay Peak or even in Orleans Co. If all was built out by these EB-5 programs happened, they would have had to generate 7,000 FTE. It was obvious to everyone that those employees would not be from Orleans Co., with a populations of 27K.
Be sure to listen tomorrow and ask questions if you have any:
http://digital.vpr.net/post/what-nowwhats-next-nek
http://digital.vpr.net/post/what-nowwhats-next-nek
The big deal for me with the Q is it's completely arrogant. It's the equivalent of a dog pissing on the place as "mine." It also places the Qs above the community and everything else in the NEK that makes Burke, Burke.
I'm a traditionalist and when you've got a place like Burke or Stowe with the history they have; town, resort and many businesses sharing in the identify, you leave it alone. The role is to be a steward of the mountain until it's time for the next owner after you move on.
If anyone changed the name of Stowe, there would be a far more severe reaction than what happened at Burke.
If they had left the resort as just Burke and maybe called the hotel, "Q Hotel at Burke Mountain Resort", people wouldn't be so annoyed.
Not Sure
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Being a relative Newb to this forum and not knowing the history of Burke I interpreted the "Q" as a durogitory poke at the previous owners LOL . After reading lots of posts I think keeping the Q and adding an "F" temporarily would be therapeutic for the locals.
Actually Eb-5 has created lots of jobs , just not where intended. Lots of lawyers will be working overtime!
Actually Eb-5 has created lots of jobs , just not where intended. Lots of lawyers will be working overtime!
VTKilarney
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I think that the mistake of adding a Q was amplified by poor decisions that were made early on - such as severing ties with Kingdom Trails and bashing the largest benefactor of the ski area.
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