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Big Burke announcement

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Here's the news video on the groundbreaking.

http://www.wcax.com/story/25680882/groundbreaking-at-the-q-burke-ski-area

Also gives an update on AnC Bio and the Newport Hotel development.

The hotel will make a big difference. And it will show if there is indeed pent up demand for Burke in the overnight visitor market. If Steve is able to be as aggressive with the promos and deals at Burke as he was at Jay then I think things will be good. Steve has done a great job at Jay. He did a good job with Killington considering the cards he was handed by ASC.

I am wondering what Q's role will be.

As to the story, the job metrics have come into question lately. I say that with the "Bill Speak" about 300 jobs onsite and 500 support jobs. Knowing "Bill Speak" that probably means less jobs than those. He gets a bit too excited at times about figures ;) As someone in here pointed out that he told a crowd this week that waterpark visits were "over 300,000" and then told SKI that the visits were "about 400,000". The jobs are welcome, but are they sustainable or temporary? Just a thought.

I'd like to see some improvements with the ski product as well. Add some snowmaking perhaps?

As to the rest of the report, they got their AnCBio funding approved. Sounds like the other Jay project is close. But the Marina Project looks to be stalled.
 

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Um, what? :blink:

vtdigger said:
AnC Bio’s new green light indicates USCIS approval of the business and its job creation projections. But Q Burke’s first hotel has yet to receive the same thumbs-up from USCIS.

Project manager Alex MacLean said the team is confident it will obtain the approval and secure the remaining investments needed to complete the project as planned.

Sounds like it is not fully funded?
 

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The Caledonian is reporting that Ary Jr. Is becoming President of Q Aviation but will remain an "executive" of Burke Mountain.

Some day Daddy is going to run out of companies for Jr....
 

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Breaking News:

Warren Buffet still lives in Omaha.

um what? how is that even remotely relevant? Buffet is an investor, not a general manager of a business.

We've all seen the impact of a good GM like Mike at Killington. They're on property accessing business, problem solving and communicating with the guests. I think it's prudent for Burke that Steve spends as much time on the property as possible.
 

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I don't doubt Buffet's managerial skill, but that's not what he's known for.

When Killington was essentially managed from Utah, we all saw what happened. That's my point.
 

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I don't doubt Buffet's managerial skill, but that's not what he's known for.

When Killington was essentially managed from Utah, we all saw what happened. That's my point.

Well that's bad management from Utah not Omaha. Utah can't even manage Utah. I think that's quite evident from recent happenings. My point is you don't have to be hands on to be effective.
 

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The Caledonian and VTDigger photos confirm that Ary was standing at the end of the line. He's the not-dressed-like-a-Vermonter guy.

You have to love Vermont. The one comment posted to the VTDigger article is this:
"Typical chamber of commerce-like photo op. So, here comes more impervious surface, more non-point-source pollution, less Wild Nature, more cars, more noise pollution, fragmented wildlife habitat, etc. Thanks for all the gifts, which are hardly free."

Look out for those evil chambers of commerce!!!!!! I like the redundant term "Wild Nature" - capitalized no less!
 

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Well that's bad management from Utah not Omaha. Utah can't even manage Utah. I think that's quite evident from recent happenings. My point is you don't have to be hands on to be effective.

Yeah POWDR has problems. As to Buffet, I think that his MO is to buy potential or already successful companies and then work with management to improve them. I would not call him a general manager. Considering the major gaffes over the last year and other problems, having a GM on site everyday is critical.

Steve is no stranger to us and to the industry. I know that he gets a lot of the concerns. I just wonder how much authority/autonomy he will have. I'd be less concerned if Burke was a Stenger venture; but since the Q's own most of it and want to control it I think having someone with industry experience on the grounds is crucial.
 

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The Caledonian and VTDigger photos confirm that Ary was standing at the end of the line. He's the not-dressed-like-a-Vermonter guy.

You have to love Vermont. The one comment posted to the VTDigger article is this:
"Typical chamber of commerce-like photo op. So, here comes more impervious surface, more non-point-source pollution, less Wild Nature, more cars, more noise pollution, fragmented wildlife habitat, etc. Thanks for all the gifts, which are hardly free."

Look out for those evil chambers of commerce!!!!!! I like the redundant term "Wild Nature" - capitalized no less!

Funny. I would not call the open meadow below Mid-Burke "wild nature".
 

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If you want to know why mini-Ary is being shown the door, it's because he comes up with quotes like this:
Ary Quiros, who will be involved in running the airplane facility at Newport Airport and remain active at Q Burke, introduced Tim Tierney, the head of Kingdom Trails, as "my partner."
 
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