Yeah, there's lots of skiing in August....... :lol:
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Cannon Mountain...thoughts
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Yeah, there's lots of skiing in August....... :lol:
witch hobble
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I hate to quote ads for mutual funds, but "Past performance cannot guarantee future results".
I have skied some designated hiking trails, and when I do I use extra caution with the knowledge that I'm the one who's activity is out of the normal range of usage, and that I might come across uphillers. Likewise any knowledgeable hiker assumes that there would be people coming rapidly down open ski terrain and would act accordingly. But FNSP is not just roadside, but Interstate HIghway-side. Lowest common denominator type of tourist. Unpredictable behavior. I'm sure that is why the signage is there in the first place.
threecy
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And in winter, the Polecat ski trail is the most popular hiking route to White Mountain 4,000 Footer "Wildcat D"
threecy
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Cross posted from SnowJournal.
The claim is that Cannon Mountain ski area has been profitable since the 2007-2008 season (FY08 ).
Check out what they started doing with their energy expenses that same year:
The claim is that Cannon Mountain ski area has been profitable since the 2007-2008 season (FY08 ).
Check out what they started doing with their energy expenses that same year:
Cannonball
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I have no idea. I would have to assume that there have been very few incidents. I'm only basing that on the fact that (as discussed before) as a frequent skier AND hiker of Cannon at all times of year I have NEVER had an incident. In fact the only incidents I've ever heard about anywhere between hikers and anyone else are stories you seem to have a connection to.
WWF-VT
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Cross posted from SnowJournal.
The claim is that Cannon Mountain ski area has been profitable since the 2007-2008 season (FY08 ).
Check out what they started doing with their energy expenses that same year:
What is the data source for the information presented in that chart ?
threecy
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Department of Resources and Economic Development Franconia Notch State Park Ski Operations Statement of Income and Expenses, FY00-FY09.
Puck it
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Cross posted from SnowJournal.
The claim is that Cannon Mountain ski area has been profitable since the 2007-2008 season (FY08 ).
Check out what they started doing with their energy expenses that same year:
Could this be an error that was not corrected?
threecy
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I have heard that the accounting changes were via a directive that was issued.
threecy
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Also crossposted from SnowJournal:
6 out of the last 11 seasons, Cannon's ski school account has shown a loss.
6 out of the last 11 seasons, Cannon's ski school account has shown a loss.
Puck it
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That chart makes no sense. The summer operation now has the highest energy cost. Red flag!!!!!
My question regarding the electrical usage chart is whether or not the mountain is not only reporting the expense in the summer months, but shifting the expense under the Tram or Flume.
The profitability of the mountain is based upon the entire year. It really doesn't matter when the energy expenses are recorded. Still a little weird to see.
The profitability of the mountain is based upon the entire year. It really doesn't matter when the energy expenses are recorded. Still a little weird to see.
threecy
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Indeed.
Puck it
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The total looks right. The ski school one looks funky also. Wild swings in gain and loss.
Well it does make sense if they are pre-buying fuel or electricity (somehow) in the summer and hedging the market.
It is also possible that the expenses and reporting year was altered.
Puck it
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Yeah good question..... :blink:
Which year was that? Could it be accounting for the rebuilding of the ski school building or something?
And where is the PDF or link to the actual report?
threecy
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The State does not make the Statements of Income and Expenses available online. Data can be purchased at a per-page fee from Concord.
Here's the thing.
I'll start by saying I grew up on this mountain, skied it hard up until about seven or eight years ago. I'm 38.
Most of this conversation doesn't really matter all that much to me. Cannon will always have some form of adventure or stuff worth exploring. Cannon will always be cold as %# and windier than %$##. It will always have good pitch, get good snow (For nh anyway), and always be mellow for the most part, even on the weekend sometimes. It will always be beloved for skiers that just know.....
It probably will not attract a completely different clientele. It won't be a city of hotels and condos, complete with the overpriced fake village selling silly stuff and marginal trendy food. Prices will always be in check as they will always need to attract skiers. It would make a terrible luxery or exclusive destination.
I don't want to see any lease happen. I think its good for the state to be involved with recreation in all available. This is one of the times I'm o.k. with bigger govt. but in the end I bet it doesn't really affect all that much to most skiers
I'll start by saying I grew up on this mountain, skied it hard up until about seven or eight years ago. I'm 38.
Most of this conversation doesn't really matter all that much to me. Cannon will always have some form of adventure or stuff worth exploring. Cannon will always be cold as %# and windier than %$##. It will always have good pitch, get good snow (For nh anyway), and always be mellow for the most part, even on the weekend sometimes. It will always be beloved for skiers that just know.....
It probably will not attract a completely different clientele. It won't be a city of hotels and condos, complete with the overpriced fake village selling silly stuff and marginal trendy food. Prices will always be in check as they will always need to attract skiers. It would make a terrible luxery or exclusive destination.
I don't want to see any lease happen. I think its good for the state to be involved with recreation in all available. This is one of the times I'm o.k. with bigger govt. but in the end I bet it doesn't really affect all that much to most skiers
