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Catamount is the worst in the EAST !!!!

SKidds

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I hope people don't judge you on your worst day.. We all have them and they do not represent our best...
Yeah, I have some pretty bad days. But when push comes to shove, and the tough need to get going, when it matters most I hope I not at my worst. But, point taken.

99% of the people here don't come JUST to blast a mountain... most of these complainer types are more interested in "carpet bombing" the internet with their diatribe... to punish the mountain..
x2, perhaps. But, I don't think people should have to live on these forums and develop a post count before they can contribute, for better or worse. We live in an information age, and people gotta digest what they read.
 

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appears JBski's problem with the carpet are not unique to him. from tripadvisor -
The mountain itself is great. The real problem is the staff, they are rude & obnoxious. I witnessed them yelling at kids many times usually the kids that were in lessons. If you get a lesson for your child do not leave them with the instuctor unattended. I am incredibly disappointed by how impatient they all were maybe this would have been different if ski school was in it's own area. Only one instructor would help the kids when they fell off the carpet lift THANK YOU,and they people working the booth were not paying attention. Lifts are unreliable, multiple lifts were shut down multiple times through out the day which caused extremely long lines.
 

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Everyone says not to judge them on busy holiday weekends. I agree that may be true about what i said about parking, etc, but they charge MORE $ for Holiday / weekend passes and should be staffed adequately for the increased lift prices / volume. Being a holiday weekend is even more reason to have the lifts staffed properly.
 

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x2, perhaps. But, I don't think people should have to live on these forums and develop a post count before they can contribute, for better or worse. We live in an information age, and people gotta digest what they read.

You don't need to have posts to come in a bitch about a shop or a ski area...
You just have to do it without forcing people to think your disingenuous by coming across as in a bad light to an established community.. The information age has created online communities and these communities grow and people become known to each other as friends or foes - whatever... just like physical communities.. And sometimes we raise an eyebrow when someone comes in and just lets lose without so much as a hello...
 

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Hopefully this isn't off topic...

I had to go to Waterville 3 times before I had what I would consider to be a good day. I still didn't like the crowds too much but the lift lines moved well and I didn't feel crowded in on the trails. I'd definitely go back again.

My first trip to Loon was over a holiday week and it was crazy busy...not much fun. I then went on a less busy day and I had a great time. I've seen a fair share of people put the place down but if you can avoid crowded days Loon has a nice mix of terrain and they did a great job getting trails open early on.

The OP shouldn't make a blanket judgment of a ski area based on one bad day. I didn't...
 

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Everyone says not to judge them on busy holiday weekends. I agree that may be true about what i said about parking, etc, but they charge MORE $ for Holiday / weekend passes and should be staffed adequately for the increased lift prices / volume. Being a holiday weekend is even more reason to have the lifts staffed properly.

Holiday weekends suck...

You mess with the bull - you'll get the horns...
 

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STAY AWAY from Catamount – go to Windham, Belleayre, Jiminy Peak, ect where they know how to run a mountain ( and invest their profits to have a clean, updated facility, new equip /lifts and have a proper staff).

Tripadvisor is a PERFECT place for her comments...

your just mad because JBSki didn't mention Hunter as an alternative.




^^ lets see if the grammer police bust me
 

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You don't need to have posts to come in a bitch about a shop or a ski area...
You just have to do it without forcing people to think your disingenuous by coming across as in a bad light to an established community.. The information age has created online communities and these communities grow and people become known to each other as friends or foes - whatever... just like physical communities.. And sometimes we raise an eyebrow when someone comes in and just lets lose without so much as a hello...
Agreed. JB did come across as an angry young man, and his delivery was perhaps not the most conducive. More flies with honey, even when complaining. I hear ya. But, we don't want to commit the same sin in the response. Not that everyone has, but calling JB out for his faults in delivery should be done as gently as we think his call out of Catamount shoulda been, no?
 

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your just mad because JBSki didn't mention Hunter as an alternative.

Actually made me feel good.. If she freaks out on a magic carpet she'll friggin lose it at Hunter... haha..

I'm not mad... just concerned..
I'd rather see a problem get fixed then people avoid a ski area because of a rant...
 

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They don't pay me, but I'll shill for Whiteface. Holiday weekend experiences....many. Bad days....not a one.
 

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1) No new holes for oakapple for bad mouthing Thunder Ridge! Where's the justice, you mountain bashing post hypocrits?! Big Birch Rules!!!!!! (OK, maybe not rules, but 25 years ago it was great for getting me on the snow every day. I wish my kids school had a race team/ski club).
In the first place, I didn't bad mouth Thunder Ridge; I expressed the opinion that Catamount is much better. Surely you are not suggesting that we cannot make a direct comparison between two ski areas?

The OP's statement that Catamount is the "worst" in the entire Eastern United States is in a very different category, as it's practically impossible for anyone actually to have visited all of them.

3) The "appreciate it for what is is" crowd. While there is a thin vein of merit here, it's not like they are giving the mountain away. For $59 bucks a day people should expect a lot
I'm not sure they're giving it away anywhere. At the aforementioned Thunder Ridge, for instance, the peak-day adult rack rate is $50—not a huge difference.
 

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FYI, here's what Catamount's website says is required of their lift operators:

The lift operator shall operate any assigned lift in accordance with written or verbal procedures and policy's, to provide a safe environment for guests to load, ride, and unload on our system of aerial and surface lifts. A lift operator will be in direct charge and held responsible for his or her lift.
http://www.catamountski.com/employment/employment.cfm

I wouldn't want to be the liftie who wandered away....
 

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Agreed. JB did come across as an angry young man, and his delivery was perhaps not the most conducive. More flies with honey, even when complaining. I hear ya. But, we don't want to commit the same sin in the response. Not that everyone has, but calling JB out for his faults in delivery should be done as gently as we think his call out of Catamount shoulda been, no?

Maybe so - maybe not...

I stand by my comment that i hate this crap.. And I'll continue to call people out that pull this kind of crap...
 

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Don't get me stawted on Hunta! Talk about your bad days......on multiple occasions. But, I did go back, and have had great days, and they have great terrain.

(See JB, give em the good with the bad!!)
 

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Maybe so - maybe not...

I stand by my comment that i hate this crap.. And I'll continue to call people out that pull this kind of crap...
Awww, come on....admit it. You love a smattering of this crap!!! Keeps the place lively, eh?

Now I gotta call my friend and ask where it was they had that baaaad ski school experience locally.
 

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Operating any lift much less a beginner lift without attendants is a huge safety issue. And I am willing to bet there are laws regarding this.

If I were Catamounts insurance provider - I would check this out first hand, but their days would be over if true.

This is just insanity.

It does not matter if it was a busy weekend, small operation, has good terranin etc.........

Customers / KIDS safety is not taken seriously.
 

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Don't get me stawted on Hunta! Talk about your bad days......on multiple occasions. But, I did go back, and have had great days, and they have great terrain.

(See JB, give em the good with the bad!!)

For me the "best of times" out weighs the "worst of times"... :)

I can put up with some crap for good terrain.. This weekend I only waited in 2 lift lines and rode my ass off.. Intermediates on the front had a different experience..
 
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