Chairlift Confessions

[tirolerpeter]

Spark Up?

That last posting "Sparked" me up. Why does anyone think that the confines of a gondola is the right place to "light up" anything? I can understand someone suffering from an excess of Ski Lodge Chili, but burning anything is outrageous. It is amazing that addicts (nicotine or whatever) can justify polluting the air of others around them to feed their addiction. If you need a smoke, don't get on the lift line or on the gondola. Take a break, and feed the monkey away from the rest of us.

 

[bvibert]

That last posting "Sparked" me up. Why does anyone think that the confines of a gondola is the right place to "light up" anything? I can understand someone suffering from an excess of Ski Lodge Chili, but burning anything is outrageous. It is amazing that addicts (nicotine or whatever) can justify polluting the air of others around them to feed their addiction. If you need a smoke, don't get on the lift line or on the gondola. Take a break, and feed the monkey away from the rest of us.

THANK YOU! Well said.

 

[Phildozer]

That last posting "Sparked" me up. Why does anyone think that the confines of a gondola is the right place to "light up" anything? I can understand someone suffering from an excess of Ski Lodge Chili, but burning anything is outrageous. It is amazing that addicts (nicotine or whatever) can justify polluting the air of others around them to feed their addiction. If you need a smoke, don't get on the lift line or on the gondola. Take a break, and feed the monkey away from the rest of us.

I agree 100%.

I can't *stand* when people smoke cigarettes in the liftline.

 

[smootharc]

Absolutely agree....

That last posting "Sparked" me up. Why does anyone think that the confines of a gondola is the right place to "light up" anything? I can understand someone suffering from an excess of Ski Lodge Chili, but burning anything is outrageous. It is amazing that addicts (nicotine or whatever) can justify polluting the air of others around them to feed their addiction. If you need a smoke, don't get on the lift line or on the gondola. Take a break, and feed the monkey away from the rest of us.

...as the only thing smoking near me better be a smokin' hot ski bunny. Unfortunately, as a middle aged love handle ridden person with a perpetual runny nose....well, I usually need a telescope to find the nearest ski bunny.


Have been wondering when legislation will get to outdoor second hand smoke. As a parent with a child with asthma....well you can imagine I care about air quality issues. Couldn't Powerbar or Clif make a bar with Nicoteen ?

 

[DEVO]

Once while riding a chairlift with a female fellow ski instructor ( a very pretty one at that) she confessed to me that she was still a virgin and that she wanted me to be her "first"! She was a senior in high school and I was in college (sophmore, I think). As much as the little devil on my shoulder was screaming YES YES YES!!!, I told her I had a girlfriend (of 2 years), and couldn't cheat on her. She said she understood, and everything was cool.

A couple of days later on the lift again, she was telling me about her dad's classic corvette and when I said I would love to see it some time she said, "Sure, and I'll even let you drive it if you sleep with me" .........aaaaggghhh!.... Again, I had to tell her I couldn't do it. That summer my girlfriend and I broke up and all I could think about was that cute ski instructor.

 

[Grassi21]

Once while riding a chairlift with a female fellow ski instructor ( a very pretty one at that) she confessed to me that she was still a virgin and that she wanted me to be her "first"! She was a senior in high school and I was in college (sophmore, I think). As much as the little devil on my shoulder was screaming YES YES YES!!!, I told her I had a girlfriend (of 2 years), and couldn't cheat on her. She said she understood, and everything was cool.

A couple of days later on the lift again, she was telling me about her dad's classic corvette and when I said I would love to see it some time she said, "Sure, and I'll even let you drive it if you sleep with me" .........aaaaggghhh!.... Again, I had to tell her I couldn't do it. That summer my girlfriend and I broke up and all I could think about was that cute ski instructor.

:-o Your willpower is mind boggling.

 

[Joshua B]

Once while riding a chairlift with a female fellow ski instructor ( a very pretty one at that) she confessed to me that she was still a virgin and that she wanted me to be her "first"!

Surely that chairlift ride wasn't your first meeting...

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

Once while riding a chairlift with a female fellow ski instructor ( a very pretty one at that) she confessed to me that she was still a virgin and that she wanted me to be her "first"! She was a senior in high school and I was in college (sophmore, I think). As much as the little devil on my shoulder was screaming YES YES YES!!!, I told her I had a girlfriend (of 2 years), and couldn't cheat on her. She said she understood, and everything was cool.

A couple of days later on the lift again, she was telling me about her dad's classic corvette and when I said I would love to see it some time she said, "Sure, and I'll even let you drive it if you sleep with me" .........aaaaggghhh!.... Again, I had to tell her I couldn't do it. That summer my girlfriend and I broke up and all I could think about was that cute ski instructor.

Devo should be banned from this forum. He's a bad seed.

That is a really good chairlift confession though.

 

[DEVO]

Devo should be banned from this forum. He's a bad seed.

That is a really good chairlift confession though.

If anything, I should be banned for not "jumping" on that opportunity.

(or for the bad use of the above pun)

...and no this was not our first meeting. We were instructors together and had become friends.

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

If anything, I should be banned for not "jumping" on that opportunity.
.

That's what I meant.

 

[bvibert]

If anything, I should be banned for not "jumping" on that opportunity.

(or for the bad use of the above pun)

...and no this was not our first meeting. We were instructors together and had become friends.

I'm pretty sure it's not considered cheating if it's done on the chair lift, that's kind of like being in another country right??

 

[AdironRider]

...as the only thing smoking near me better be a smokin' hot ski bunny. Unfortunately, as a middle aged love handle ridden person with a perpetual runny nose....well, I usually need a telescope to find the nearest ski bunny.


Have been wondering when legislation will get to outdoor second hand smoke. As a parent with a child with asthma....well you can imagine I care about air quality issues. Couldn't Powerbar or Clif make a bar with Nicoteen ?

Ill be the first to admit that I hate the smell of cigarettes and would prefer to have people around me not smoke, but come on, its OUTSIDE. Your not going to die, sorry worrysome folks, its the truth. Secondhand smoke is an issue mainly in cramped indoor situations where small kids who have no choice could be harmed, but seriously, a couple particles of diluted smoke outdoors is not going to have much of an effect on you at all. Its their right to smoke if they want to, leave them be.

 

[tirolerpeter]

Smoke On LIftline

Ill be the first to admit that I hate the smell of cigarettes and would prefer to have people around me not smoke, but come on, its OUTSIDE. Your not going to die, sorry worrysome folks, its the truth. Secondhand smoke is an issue mainly in cramped indoor situations where small kids who have no choice could be harmed, but seriously, a couple particles of diluted smoke outdoors is not going to have much of an effect on you at all. Its their right to smoke if they want to, leave them be.

While the smell of tobacco smoke might not affect you or be offensive to you, it is to many others. I wife and I have a severe allergic reaction to tobacco smoke. We get immediate headaches and sinus pressure. We do everything possible NOT to expose ourselves smoke. For years, we simply stayed away from movie theaters and restaurants where smoking was permitted. We always ask if a social event (like a party, or wedding) will have smokers present, and decline if the answer is yes. When we travel we ONLY patronize NON-SMOKING establishments to eat. The idea of a closed area having "SMOKING and NON-SMOKING" sections is ludicrous. Its all the same air. Most times we simply move away from sources of smoke. YOU CAN'T DO THAT ON A LIFT LINE.! There is simply NO reason for a smoker to impose their addiction on anyone else.

As far as your comment: " Its their right to smoke if they want to, leave them be." What about MY right not to inhale their noxious fumes? The concept of smoking being a "right" has been adjudicated extensively. And, there is in fact, no such right. It is a fact, that smokers are not only harming themselves, but any others they come into contact with. So, if you have to have a fix, don't do it in the air I have to share with you. If you consider this point of view intolerant, then consider the intolerance smokers show toward non-smokers they impose on when they are trapped into being forced to inhale their smoke.

 

[AdironRider]

I understand how you would want to move away man, but if you get what you want youd have to make cigarettes practically completely illegal. Its not that big a deal. Use a different lift, but hes outside, in most states thats all smokers have left. Your not being trapped, you can also move. Its a two way street there killer.

 

[smootharc]

Re: Secondhand smoke.

Inside v. outside is a semantic argument. It's not whether you have four walls and a ceiling above your head.....if you smell smoke, you are breathing smoke. If you breathe smoke you are being affected by it, health-wise...it's a matter of degrees here. Perhaps for 99 out of 100 of us our bodies can handle exposure to second hand smoke....but if that 1 out of 100 that couldn't handle exposure was you.....or your spouse....or your kid....then the issue becomes....cloudy. No easy answers....lots of gray areas here.

I'm not for more goverment legislation....and, heck, eating a growth hormone injected fast food burger is probably hurting you more than a molecule or two of second hand smoke, right ? But seems to me it is more than just an inside vs. outside issue...

I won't even go there on how many smokers I've seen disposing of butts off chairlifts....but we've hit that pretty hard in another thread.

My .02

 

[tirolerpeter]

Smoking Rights?

I understand how you would want to move away man, but if you get what you want youd have to make cigarettes practically completely illegal. Its not that big a deal. Use a different lift, but hes outside, in most states thats all smokers have left. Your not being trapped, you can also move. Its a two way street there killer.

"Use a different lift" Are you kidding?

You just made my point about smoking addicts and their "rationalizing" about their addiction and its effect on others.

Non-smokers don't have a lot of "lift" choices do they? Where do you ski that has so many "lift choices" available so that you can move away from the smoke? My NON-SMOKING anywhere, has NO effect on a smoker. Their SMOKING next to me has clear effects on me. It is NOT a "two way street" as you put it. BTW, most smokers spend a hell of a lot of time "whining" about how they know it isn't good for them, but it is so TOUGH to quit. Pretty "ironic" wouldn't you say? We are asked to share their misery until they get the cajones to actually stop feeding their habit. Enough said (we are way off topic anyway).

 

[JimG.]

Ed Norton: Hey Ralph, mind if I smoke?

Ralph Cramden: I don't care if you burn.

One of my favorite "Honeymooners" episodes.

 

[ChileMass]

Wow - pretty hysterical stuff about cig smoke! Tirolerpeter - if you have a severe allergic reaction to cig smoke, I sympathize. But how do others with allergic reactions handle their problems? It's unfortunate that you might be exposed to smokers, but it seems to me that it's primarily your responsibility to avoid those situations, like someone who's allergic to peanuts or seafood or bee stings, etc.

I really am sorry this is such a problem for you, but that's my opinion.

He says as he lights up a Marlboro Light.........

 

[JimG.]

Wow - pretty hysterical stuff about cig smoke! Tirolerpeter - if you have a severe allergic reaction to cig smoke, I sympathize. But how do others with allergic reactions handle their problems? It's unfortunate that you might be exposed to smokers, but it seems to me that it's primarily your responsibility to avoid those situations, like someone who's allergic to peanuts or seafood or bee stings, etc.

I really am sorry this is such a problem for you, but that's my opinion.

He says as he lights up a Marlboro Light.........

Hmmm...Ok, I'll get a little more involved here.

I used to smoke cigarettes, gave it up cold turkey on New Year's day 1989. Haven't pufffed on a cancer stick since.

As much as I liked it when I smoked, I don't like second hand smoke at all. So I avoid it as best as I can. When I smoked, I didn't view it as a right and if someone politely asked me to refrain, I did or I went somewhere else. Because I viewed blowing smoke in these people's faces as rude.

That said, I didn't have much respect for the hysterical types who felt the need to go on an "anti-Jim cause he wants to smoke" campaign with all the health/death repercussions and what not. To all you folks like that, you are probably one of the main reasons why so many smokers DON'T quit. Because smokers view blowing smoke in your faces as a symbol of freedom.

Good lord I'm sticking my head in a beehive here, but that's the psychology of it. And if you're going to vote to quarantine folks who smoke coffin nails, you sure as hell better quarantine folks with diseases of any kind or even just runny noses, because getting sick from who knows what kind of germs is just as bad for you and everyone is allergic to that kind of health risk.

And in my effort to see both sides I'm sure I have annoyed all.

 

[freeheelwilly]

Hmmm...Ok, I'll get a little more involved here.

I used to smoke cigarettes, gave it up cold turkey on New Year's day 1989. Haven't pufffed on a cancer stick since.

As much as I liked it when I smoked, I don't like second hand smoke at all. So I avoid it as best as I can. When I smoked, I didn't view it as a right and if someone politely asked me to refrain, I did or I went somewhere else. Because I viewed blowing smoke in these people's faces as rude.

That said, I didn't have much respect for the hysterical types who felt the need to go on an "anti-Jim cause he wants to smoke" campaign with all the health/death repercussions and what not. To all you folks like that, you are probably one of the main reasons why so many smokers DON'T quit. Because smokers view blowing smoke in your faces as a symbol of freedom.

Good lord I'm sticking my head in a beehive here, but that's the psychology of it. And if you're going to vote to quarantine folks who smoke coffin nails, you sure as hell better quarantine folks with diseases of any kind or even just runny noses, because getting sick from who knows what kind of germs is just as bad for you and everyone is allergic to that kind of health risk.

And in my effort to see both sides I'm sure I have annoyed all.

Well my Mom is recovering from lung cancer. We almost lost her last year. The few friends I have who still smoke don't ever get a lecture from me though. If they don't know by now.....well....they know and I sure don't need to remind them. Sucks losin' friends/loved ones to something so stupid though Jim. Sometimes you just GOTTA say something.

Don't care for your analogy to folks with runny noses. From them I might catch a cold but from 2nd hand smoke - a tumour. Big difference.