COVID concerns in the Northeast

[RISkier]

I dont want to cause more grief to those that lost people in Horrible ways or those struggling with health issues but Accepting death is something that has been Lost over the last few decades due to the decreasing number that people see or hear about while death in most peoples lives has always been present.
Since it is usually only the Ugly deaths that appear in most News Stories the rest are there Hidden from View but people need to realize that before Covid there were already 8000 deaths a DAY in american. FLU, Cold, Car accident, Cancer, Murder, Overdose you name it.

And Society as a whole does accept 50,000+ deaths in american like a it never happened or did. Never even in bad FLU year have I hear anything but a blip about 70,000 deaths and that people should get vaccinated. Schools never closed neither did any location. Kids with sniffles go about their life. Parents do the best they can.

Remeber even with the FLU vaccines that we are running death tolls 50,000 plus a year. With Covid it will be the same or worse

If you look at the overall number of deaths it's way higher than the expected number of total deaths based on data prior to the onset of the pandemic. And it's considerably higher than the 300,000 mark that we reportedly passed today. The pressure on ICUs and front line health care workers also means that persons having serious car accidents, or heart attacks, or strokes, or .... may not have the care they need. While it's mostly the elderly and persons with pre-existing risk factors who are passing away, healthy young people are not exempt. And they aren't exempt from things like long term heart problems. I know a young, healthy person in the early 40's who is experiencing long term effects. Yes the flu is bad. Yes, people die from cancer, and murder, and drug overdose, and ... But, except for flu, they aren't catching those things by interacting with others. So for me the idea that we should just accept that people die and move on is just not acceptable.

 

[abc]

Becuase those are the people at risk and need to take the precautions.

But that's an empty statement.

They're the nurses in the hospital. They are the Amazon warehouse pickers. They're the janitor who clean the toilet of your office. They may even be your co-worker who you didn't know are taking hypertension drugs because he looks and acts just fine.

So how do you propose these vast percentage of people "take precaution" when your boss ask them to go back to the office? "because only the old and weak die from Covid"!

Much of the restriction we're having IS to protect the perfectly productive but less than perfectly healthy member of our society, so they will remain productive!

WE can't travel as we would have like so that the diabetic hotel room cleaner don't get Covid from people who stay in the room the night before. Sure, some would have wanted to work because they need the money. But if we didn't have a lock down, they may need to worry more than just grocery money. They would have to figure out how to support themselves when they can't work any more after catching Covid.

Don't forget, WE the tax payers are picking up the tab for all the "free" covid treatments of the uninsured. Be it old or young, however many co-morbidity they have.

 

[Puck it]

But that's an empty statement.

They're the nurses in the hospital. They are the Amazon warehouse pickers. They're the janitor who clean the toilet of your office. They may even be your co-worker who you didn't know are taking hypertension drugs because he looks and acts just fine.

So how do you propose these vast percentage of people "take precaution" when your boss ask them to go back to the office? "because only the old and weak die from Covid"!

Much of the restriction we're having IS to protect the perfectly productive but less than perfectly healthy member of our society, so they will remain productive!

WE can't travel as we would have like so that the diabetic hotel room cleaner don't get Covid from people who stay in the room the night before. Sure, some would have wanted to work because they need the money. But if we didn't have a lock down, they may need to worry more than just grocery money. They would have to figure out how to support themselves when they can't work any more after catching Covid.

Don't forget, WE the tax payers are picking up the tab for all the "free" covid treatments of the uninsured. Be it old or young, however many co-morbidity they have.

Rant. What about the starving kids in Africa. The female oppression in some Muslims countries. The persecution of Muslims in China. The India and Pakistan border disputes. The Mexican and Columibian drug cartels poisoning Americans. Etc etc etc. it goes on and on. The world sucks if you let it get to you. There will be death and birth. So is the circle of life. Now I have gone full Disney.

 

[abc]

Now I have gone full Disney.

Since you started it, it's your right to go full circle.

 

[Puck it]

Since you started it, it's your right to go full circle.

Turn of your TV and stay in your house until mid 2020

 

[abc]

Turn of your TV and stay in your house until mid 2020

That's a perfect illustration of people like you. You try to tell others how they should live their life, according to YOUR opinion!

 

[Puck it]

Since you started it, it's your right to go full circle.

Nope you can stay

That's a perfect illustration of people like you. You try to tell others how they should live their life, according to YOUR opinion!

Kettle!

 

[JimG.]

Oh boy that was exhausting.

Dr. G.'s prescription is more skiing.

 

[kingslug]

I second the motion...

 

[ss20]

In x number of months when the threat of this virus is essentially zero you'll see what he's talking about.

VT, NY, CA all gonna have draconian restrictions still in place while most other states are 95% back to normal. Calling it now.

To add to my point VT just installed over 300 PERMANENT metal road signs telling visitors they need to quarantine. I don't think "back to normal" is in the state's lexicon.

VTrans’ $600,000 COVID-19 sign blitz targets travel into Vermont

GUILFORD, Vt. — Vermont’s fight against COVID-19 has a new driving force: the Vermont Agency of Transportation, which has unveiled $600,000 worth of federally funded signs at border entrances and highway exits.“We’re trying to get people’s attention,”...

www.vnews.com

I don't know what kind of "conspiracy" this is. Some states are going extreme with restrictions. That's a fact. "Too" extreme or "just right" or "not enough" is an opinion...but what VT is doing is certainly extreme you can't deny it. It's been said states don't want to commit economic suicide and will get rid of restrictions as soon as safely possible. I don't think the voters in VT agree. And politicians want to get re-elected so they'll do whatever the public wants. And I think (not know....my guess) that VT population is probably some of the most COVID-fearing in the nation hence leaders doing what they know will get them re-elected, regardless of long-term economic health.

 

[NYDB]

Are you suggesting that I will have to quarantine every time I visit VT for the rest of my life because they put in PERMANENT road signs?

 

[cdskier]

To add to my point VT just installed over 300 PERMANENT metal road signs telling visitors they need to quarantine. I don't think "back to normal" is in the state's lexicon.

Did you read the entire article you referenced? The article specifically says they're NOT permanent and simply more efficient and cheaper than continuing to use solar powered ones...

 

[KustyTheKlown]

lol METAL ROAD SIDES = GOVERNMENT TYRANNY FOREVER!

 

[Keelhauled]

Did you read the entire article you referenced? The article specifically says they're NOT permanent and simply more efficient and cheaper than continuing to use solar powered ones...

Don't know know where you are? This is the internet, why would I read the article when I can OVERREACT and LEAP TO CONCLUSIONS?

 

[ss20]

Don't know know where you are? This is the internet, why would I read the article when I can OVERREACT and LEAP TO CONCLUSIONS?

I do LOVE my caps to make POINTS.

Yes I read it but I doubt they'd be putting them up if they didn't think they'd be using them for a quite a while longer.

 

[Jully]

Many construction sites along the highway put in metal signs. Not long term, not short term, but medium term!

 

[BenedictGomez]

$600,000? OMG that state is a parody of it's own stupidity.

 

[VTKilarney]

I just saw one of those Vermont “mandatory quarantine“ signs. Where? On the ramp that connects I-91 north to I-89 south.

Yep. That’s right. As you are entering New Hampshire.

 

[KustyTheKlown]

I just saw one of those Vermont “mandatory quarantine“ signs. Where? On the ramp that connects I-91 north to I-89 south.

Yep. That’s right. As you are entering New Hampshire.

they want you to be aware that if you leave you cant just come right back in

the signs are also at the major ski exits on 89, so you're already well into vermont. they want the ski tourists to see it at exists 9 and 10.

 

[gittist]

states have nothing to gain by crippling their economies and shrinking their tax revenue. It’s a dumb fucking conspiracy theory.

Yes they do, they get to beg the federal government for money. However they don't realize that they've crippled the federal governments revenue stream at the same time that they put their economies in the crapper. What's that saying about killing the goose that laid the golden egg?

The Bank of Mom and Dad don't have the money either...