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I'm sorry Sledhaulingmedic but I have to disagree with the Trekkers idea. If you're going to spend the money get dedicated AT bindings. Trekkers are heavy, inconvienient, and cost more than half of an AT binding. Why pay almost $200 for a piece of equipment that will almost certanly lead you to buy an AT binding in the end? Now you have a used Trekker you are stuck with and try to sell it on Ebay where you got the damn thing from in the first place :lol: .Buy good equipment once. Thats my philosophy. If you get Trekkers you will still need skins. They are around $90. Save your money and get some AT bindings. And dont be afraid to get something less than the Frreride. I choose the Titanal 3 because at 155lbs I dont need a DIN setting above 10, where the Freeride goes to 12.
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Big Game said:
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Or your can just get a splitboard... :)

Few weeks from getting one...heard of any deals?

Ebay is the only place to get the deals...
Burton's lowering their prices on splits this year..
Never Summer makes custom splits for about $1000...
Pretty pricey - but totally customized and built to be a split.

Winterstick is making them this year...

Also Voile' makes them... They have the best interface...
 

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JimG. said:
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nice look at this :D
http://www.backcountry.com/store/BL...nal-3-Alpine-Touring-Binding.html?id=htFnaXa6

i love that site... it also were i got my pocket rockets

Great site; that's a good deal for the Titanals. The only difference between them and the Freerides is the DIN setting: these go from 1-10, the Freerides go up to 12.

Go with these over the Trekkers.


weighin in at a mean 130 pounds i dont think the DIN is a problem :wink:

crap just figured out they only have the long ones
325-365

they do have this though
http://www.backcountry.com/store/BLD0664/c1/s3/Fritschi-Diamir-Explore-Binding.html
whats the diffence between those and the other titanals?




ohh ya is backcountry.com the only place that sells At stuff, they first 2 pages when i typed in the titanals were all backcountry.com or some company owned by them
 

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NHpowderhound said:
I'm sorry Sledhaulingmedic but I have to disagree with the Trekkers idea. If you're going to spend the money get dedicated AT bindings. Trekkers are heavy, inconvienient, and cost more than half of an AT binding. Why pay almost $200 for a piece of equipment that will almost certanly lead you to buy an AT binding in the end? Now you have a used Trekker you are stuck with and try to sell it on Ebay where you got the damn thing from in the first place :lol: .Buy good equipment once. Thats my philosophy. If you get Trekkers you will still need skins. They are around $90. Save your money and get some AT bindings. And dont be afraid to get something less than the Frreride. I choose the Titanal 3 because at 155lbs I dont need a DIN setting above 10, where the Freeride goes to 12.
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Even though I've long since purchased an AT set-up, I still get use out of the trekkers. There are plenty of times I'll sacrifice on the climb for to have a full-blown alpine set up for descent. Or throgh them in my pack when patrolling with skins and take a side trip into the slack country without changing to my AT stuff. (Yes, sometimes I patrol on AT, too.)

When someone makes an AT boot as stiff as my Langes, I'll put the Trekkers on Ebay
 

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Jim G wrote
NHPH is right about the Adrenalin...few ski boots are as expensive. With a pro-form discount and some begging, mine ran $550 with custom footbeds and all the boot fitting.
:eek: You got a deal!
When I was pricing them last year I was seeing over$700 just for the boot!
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NHpowderhound said:
You got a deal! NHPH

My bootfitter sells alot of Garmont tele equipment, so he got them at wholesale along with other stuff. He sold them to me at the pro-form price which was about $400. The rest of the cost was for the custom fit.

Marc from FTO got a similar deal on them.
 

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I have no personal experience, but they have a good reputation. And I believe that the breakage issues (common with all AT and especially tele gear) have been addressed.
 

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JimG. said:
awf170 said:
nice look at this :D
http://www.backcountry.com/store/BL...nal-3-Alpine-Touring-Binding.html?id=htFnaXa6

i love that site... it also were i got my pocket rockets

Great site; that's a good deal for the Titanals. The only difference between them and the Freerides is the DIN setting: these go from 1-10, the Freerides go up to 12.

Go with these over the Trekkers.
that is a great price on the titanial 3s, wow. definitely recommended, especially for that price. iirc, they do not include ski breaks (available seperately) or am i thinking of the explore? do those take alpine boots too?

Buy good equipment once. Thats my philosophy. If you get Trekkers you will still need skins. They are around $90. Save your money and get some AT bindings. And dont be afraid to get something less than the Frreride. I choose the Titanal 3 because at 155lbs I dont need a DIN setting above 10, where the Freeride goes to 12.
that is my opinion as well. however, if money is an issue which i assumed it was in austin's case, trekkers are a solid alternative, IMO. if you get a binder, you also need to buy a new ski unless you want to remount and redrill an old one. there is also the issue of binding choice and if you need a dedicated AT boot or picking a binder that will accomodate an alpine boot (more expensive). that raises even more issues.

a trekker lets someone on a budget get into the backcountry for about ~$270 including trekker and skins (though adjustable poles would certainly be highly recommended as well) instead of binder + ski or binder + ski + boot. the other cheap alternative is going freeride or naxo and redrilling on an alpine setup and having a single ski area/BC all in one setup (i do not like that option personally). that involves a $340 binder purchase for a freeride or naxo and a redrill expense plus skins and you're up to ~$460 which is getting near half the skins and trekker option.

again, i completely agree that if you have the money, go quality, get the best, and go all out. that is what i did this past season and it really hurt the wallet! but i was going to do it any ways, so that money was essentially already spent no matter when i spent it, i was going to purchase what i wanted. for someone that doesn't have the +$1000 kicking around for new binder, skis, skins, and poles, the trekker is not a bad option to consider.
 

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awf170 said:
http://www.tramdock.com/tramdock/BCA0045/Naxo-nx01-Alpine-Touring-Binding.html

how are those...


looks like they got really good reviews, just can break kinda easy but that was supposed to fixed for 05 model. , also supposed to have awsome costumer service
pretty similar to the freeride from all reports. definitely call to verify which year that model is. reports of breaks on the first year of production are all over the net. this year's model seemed more durable with less break reports. even beefier model is coming out next season :eek:
 

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riverc0il said:
that is a great price on the titanial 3s, wow. definitely recommended, especially for that price. iirc, they do not include ski breaks (available seperately) or am i thinking of the explore? do those take alpine boots too?


Yes they take alpine boots, but they dont have my size, that how they all are on almost every website... i hate a size 9 shoe, you can never find anything.

About getting new skis, no i wouldnt, i would just mount the on my PR's which works out well IMO, because i only use them in bounds on powder days, so ill still be fine usin the AT bindings anyway. I probably would of picked up those titanials if they had my size, hopefully they will get another shipment before ski season(i dont understand why they wouldnt, and hopefully if they do the price doesnt go back up)
Anyway thanks for the help steve.
So pretty much my idea is if i can get a good price for AT bindings ill go with that
 

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ohh ya is backcountry.com the only place that sells At stuff, they first 2 pages when i typed in the titanals were all backcountry.com or some company owned by them
nah, lots of places sell AT gear. i got my freerides and skins from here. awesome shop and service, but i got them on sale for under $300 last year, the price is way up and of course, not on sale now.
http://randogear.com/bindings/bindings.asp

backcountry.com has sprawled out ugly on google with alternative domain names and referals. i hate that google crap. it has become an aweful search engine no better than the other ones due to the fact that (no disrespect to greg for doing this well) some folks know how to exploit the system to drive their sites to the top of the list. usually the sites at the top are trying to sell you stuff and have a ton of different sites all referencing the same exact crap.
 

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Riv does make a good point when saying
a trekker lets someone on a budget get into the backcountry for about ~$270 including trekker and skins (though adjustable poles would certainly be highly recommended as well) instead of binder + ski or binder + ski + boot. the other cheap alternative is going freeride or naxo and redrilling on an alpine setup and having a single ski area/BC all in one setup (i do not like that option personally). that involves a $340 binder purchase for a freeride or naxo and a redrill expense plus skins and you're up to ~$460 which is getting near half the skins and trekker option.
If you are desperate to go BC and are really on a budget and cant save for just one more season, then Trekkers are a cheaper option. However once you do go BC a few times you'll want to go full AT and have to save for 2 seasons to get them :lol: !
I bet there'll be a thread about skins soon :lol:
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now the next goal is getting my dad to get the stuff and go with me... i dont have much faith in it though, and will probably just go by myself and do things like GoS trail and sureburn, and other popular routes.
 

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i think the tit3's are last year's model so you probably won't be seeing those back in stock in your size any time soon. too bad cause that is a rad price. but you definitely do not want to buy an AT binder that is too big. keep an eye on ebay. use a few different key word searches and get daily updates. hopefully you'll find some light foot switching over to dyna's looking to drop the goods only slighty used :lol:
 

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oh ya rivercoil how hard did u find it skinning for your first time... did u cross country ski ever before you did the tuckermans trail?
 

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xc'd only once in my life and hated but i instantly fell in love with skiing. it took more energy than hiking up but not having a loaded pack is so worth it. it just feels good skiing up hill, can't really describe it but it's definitely more fun than work. especially with my new g-rides, holy mama these things are so light!
 
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