Easy backcountry Trails

[awf170]

So Steve you got your new boots So where did u get the G-rides from.... backcountry.com/tramline.com/ backcountry-outlet.com and a bunch of other things i cant think off. I was just looking at that website and that is quite a deal.

Just looked at titanal at that website... how do you have 92 pairs, and everyone is a large :angry:

 

[awf170]

about AT boots are there any companies that make them for a really skinny foot and ankle... i probably wouldnt get AT boots but if i could find a good deal and good fitting boot i would think about it

 

[awf170]

so i decided that im going to rent some tele gear and try that before i spend money on AT stuff... hopefully ill like telemarkin more, its cheaper

 

[sledhaulingmedic]

about AT boots are there any companies that make them for a really skinny foot and ankle... i probably wouldnt get AT boots but if i could find a good deal and good fitting boot i would think about it

My Scarpa Denalis fit as good as any pair of Lange's I've had. The sizes run a little large. I haven't worn anything smaller than a 9 since I was 10 years old, but the Scarpa's are 7's!

 

[riverc0il]

how is tele cheaper? with tele you can't use ANY of your alpine gear. at least there are some AT bindings that you can use alpine boots with. with tele, you'll need boots, binding, and skis regardless of which setup you go with. bindings and boots will be slightly cheaper in general, but AT has some cheaper choices comparable with tele.

 

[awf170]

how is tele cheaper? with tele you can't use ANY of your alpine gear. at least there are some AT bindings that you can use alpine boots with.

I meant if you get AT boots as well, because it seems that most people do after a about a year anyway.

 

[awf170]

My everyday ski boot is the Garmont Adrenalin. It's an AT boot that's designed to be as stiff as an alpine ski boot.

That's one thing about most AT boots...as stiff as they might be advertised to be, they are nowhere near as stiff as regular alpine boots. That throws alot of folks off when they try to ski them.

The Adrenalins addressed that issue extremely well. The biggest adjustment I had to make with them was to get used to the lightness (1/2 of an alpine boot). Felt like I had bedroom slippers on the first few runs.

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JimG or anyone else that uses them. What is the volume on the adrenalins, also how large is the cuff. I have really skinny feet and even skinnier ankles. This boot looked pretty good because you can change the sole so it will work with alpine binding. Also how do scarpa fit, and do they have a boot thats compadable with alpine bindings. The reason Im asking is a probably need a new boot before the end of the season and something that works well touring and skiing at resorts would be awsome.

 

[kbroderick]

Question re: stiffness of AT boots. Does anyone have experience with both stiffer AT boots and Rossi soft alpine boots? I'm thinking about trying to get some AT gear, and I'm trying to determine the best options.

(At least if I figure out what I want, I'll only have to figure out how to pay for it. Right now, both questions are quite open-ended.)

 

[eatskisleep]

I have the Maine+NH book and it is great.
Anyone ever skied double-head in Jackson?

 

[awf170]

I have the Maine+NH book and it is great.
Anyone ever skied double-head in Jackson?

Ya, I got the book. I was thinking about doing that too. AZ day up doublehead? :wink: Seriously though, I could that as long as there were atleast 2 or 3 AZ'ers.

 

[redalienx11]

hey AWF...did you ever end up trying tele? I think I'm about your age and I just started and its sweet. Well its at least worth a try even if you go with AT.

 

[awf170]

hey AWF...did you ever end up trying tele? I think I'm about your age and I just started and its sweet. Well its at least worth a try even if you go with AT.

I was going to go to sunapee with my mom today(low intermidiate) and rent some tele stuff, but I never got to go. The next time I go skiing with just my mom, I think I'll try teleing, because that way Ill be the same speed as her instead of having to stop every 10 seconds and wait.

 

[redalienx11]

...because that way Ill be the same speed as her instead of having to stop every 10 seconds and wait.

hahah thats exactly my strategy to. I loved skiing with mom on alpine gear, but to be honest I had to really restrain myself and stay on mediocre trails....

but be careful...if you try it once you might get hooked...best of luck

 

[awf170]

but be careful...if you try it once you might get hooked...best of luck

thats why Im hestitant about trying, there is no way I have enough money for a tele setup. I think I'm going to start saving up for a nordic setup. So after buying an AT, nordic, and tele setup I'll have no money for gas to even get to the mountains. :lol:

 

[JimG.]

My everyday ski boot is the Garmont Adrenalin. It's an AT boot that's designed to be as stiff as an alpine ski boot.

That's one thing about most AT boots...as stiff as they might be advertised to be, they are nowhere near as stiff as regular alpine boots. That throws alot of folks off when they try to ski them.

The Adrenalins addressed that issue extremely well. The biggest adjustment I had to make with them was to get used to the lightness (1/2 of an alpine boot). Felt like I had bedroom slippers on the first few runs.

bump for question...

JimG or anyone else that uses them. What is the volume on the adrenalins, also how large is the cuff. I have really skinny feet and even skinnier ankles. This boot looked pretty good because you can change the sole so it will work with alpine binding. Also how do scarpa fit, and do they have a boot thats compadable with alpine bindings. The reason Im asking is a probably need a new boot before the end of the season and something that works well touring and skiing at resorts would be awsome.

I have a fairly high volume foot and a high arch...the Adrenalins were VERY tight on me until I cooked the liners and had them fitted. But my feet fit in there perfectly.

I'm guessing they'd fit you too awf, but you will need to get them fitted and you will need a custom footbed...when all is said and done it might run you $700-$800 if you buy them new unless you can find a deal.

The Scarpa Denali is another choice, but it is nowhere near as stiff as the Adrenalin and you do not have the flexibility of the changeable soles. I don't think the Scarpa's will cross over into an alpine binding.

 

[riverc0il]

i have garmont grides and did not feel the lack of stiffness compared to my xwave 10s was that bad. i think AT boots ge t a bad rap for not being stiff (at least upper end oines like gie, adrenelin, etc). also, you dn't need a custom if the default bed is fine. the garmon liner worked for me. i havecustoms in my xwave10s which had a askight improvement. nothing huge for me. different feet need different things.

 

[SkiDog]

i have garmont grides and did not feel the lack of stiffness compared to my xwave 10s was that bad. i think AT boots ge t a bad rap for not being stiff (at least upper end oines like gie, adrenelin, etc). also, you dn't need a custom if the default bed is fine. the garmon liner worked for me. i havecustoms in my xwave10s which had a askight improvement. nothing huge for me. different feet need different things.

I can tell you're typing with one hand...sorry again about that mishap..get well soon..and I will do my best to overlook TYPOS...

M

 

[JimG.]

i have garmont grides and did not feel the lack of stiffness compared to my xwave 10s was that bad. i think AT boots ge t a bad rap for not being stiff (at least upper end oines like gie, adrenelin, etc). also, you dn't need a custom if the default bed is fine. the garmon liner worked for me. i havecustoms in my xwave10s which had a askight improvement. nothing huge for me. different feet need different things.

The G-rides were the stiffest AT boots out there until the Adrenalins came along. My first AT boots were the Scarpa Lasers and those babys were soft...way too soft.

I mention the footbed only because awf mentioned he has skinny ankles. That usually means a sloppy heel fit too, something a footbed will help to correct quite a bit. You may very well be correct that cooking the liner will be enough for him to get a decent fit.

 

[awf170]

I'm guessing they'd fit you too awf, but you will need to get them fitted and you will need a custom footbed...when all is said and done it might run you $700-$800 if you buy them new unless you can find a deal.

yeah, there is no way I would pay that much. What I would probably do is go to a store try on a few AT boots find out which ones fit and what sizes then just take a look out on ebay for something relativly cheap(200 or less) and if I could find something that would be cool, and if I could I wouldnt really care.

 

[JimG.]

What I would probably do is go to a store try on a few AT boots find out which ones fit and what sizes then just take a look out on ebay for something relativly cheap(200 or less)

I'll be interested to hear about any stores you find that carry more than one type of AT boot. They're pretty hard to come by.