Gore improvements....

[faceplant]

just got email- 'Sagamores' that new bump run.....

"INCREASED SNOWMAKING, NEW TRAIL, & EXTENDED GLADES ON BURNT RIDGE MOUNTAIN
Our newest development on Burnt Ridge Mountain will feature several new improvements during 2009/2010! Snowmaking is being added to "Sagamore"- a monster expert trail that will keep you on your edges for over 1400' vertical. Guests should look for the opening of "Eagle's Nest", an intermediate trail that connects from "Upper Pipeline" to the base of the Burnt Ridge Quad. In improving access to Burnt Ridge, the Cirque Glades will be extended all the way to the base of the lift and work will be done to regrade the "Cedars" trail. The opening of Burnt Ridge Mountain during the 2008/2009 season increased Gore's vertical drop to 2,300 feet, and offers a blend of intermediate and expert terrain serviced by the luxurious high-speed Burnt Ridge Quad.
EXCITING SKI BOWL PROGRESS - Celebrate with us the 2009/2010 opening of the all-new Ski Bowl Lodge! Look for new restrooms, updated ticketing, modernized foodservice, and better seating. (The only thing we are keeping the same is the fireplace.) Trail work is underway towards Gore's interconnect with the historic area, scheduled to open in 2010/2011. The interconnect will further increase Gore's vertical to 2,500' the sixth greatest in the eastern US.
ALL-NEW TERRAIN PARK ON WILD AIR - We are moving our terrain park to a widened "Wild Air"! This location offers quicker access from the gondola, to show off your latest tricks on all of the Terrain Park Team's new elements.
IT'S ALL ABOUT THE PRODUCT... When we expand terrain, we expand our snowmaking and grooming capabilities to match. Look for yet ANOTHER new grooming machine during 2009/2010 and thirty more tower guns. 50 new tower guns were installed on “Hawkeye” and “Echo” for 2008/2009.


saweeet
:beer:

 

[ta&idaho]

I'm excited to check out Gore this year. Emilio's just sent out their trip schedule, and they're running busses to Gore on Saturdays this year.

http://www.emiliosskishop.com/gore.html

 

[twinplanx]

I'm excited to check out Gore this year. Emilio's just sent out their trip schedule, and they're running busses to Gore on Saturdays this year.

http://www.emiliosskishop.com/gore.html

Bonus!! :beer:

 

[tjf67]

Tell you what. Gore has been doing a ton of stuff over the years. They get the snow and its a great hill. Glade skiing is abundant, drops, steeps, bumps it all there. Only negative is there runs are short.

 

[Skimaine]

Putting Gore on the wish list.

 

[Tin Woodsman]

Tell you what. Gore has been doing a ton of stuff over the years. They get the snow and its a great hill. Glade skiing is abundant, drops, steeps, bumps it all there. Only negative is there runs are short.

They get the snow?

That's news to them, according to their published snowfall statistics.

 

[catskills]

Jealous. Belleayre was suppose to break ground on a new lodge last year. :sad: Even though the money was allocated for the Belleayre new lodge, the project was stopped due to NY State's financial problems. I guess ORDA ( a separate entity) already cashed the check from NY state for the Gore lodge before the economic implosion.

More than half the skiers and riders at Gore drive past the Catskill ski areas from points south.

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

More than half the skiers and riders at Gore drive past the Catskill ski areas from points south.

I kinda doubt that. If that where true they would be traveling 3+ hours depending on how far south they are starting. The bulk of Gore skiers are from Albany- Saratoga- Glens Falls areas. It is still largely a day trip place. Gore certainly does have asperations of becoming a destination resort in the near future. Time will tell.

 

[Dr Skimeister]

Jealous.

More than half the skiers and riders at Gore drive past the Catskill ski areas from points south.

I'm one of those that drive past the Catskills to go to Gore. It's comparing apples and oranges as far as terrain and snowfall.

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

I'm one of those that drive past the Catskills to go to Gore. It's comparing apples and oranges as far as terrain and snowfall.

I'm not saying no one does, but I stand by my opinion, based only on my personel experiences. I use to ski Gore about 10x a season, now I'm only able to get there 2 or 3.
Most of the conversations I get into there or over hear on a lift are from people from the areas I mentioned.

I certainly didn't mean to imply that Gore wasn't worth the trip. I like it there.

 

[Newpylong]

I really want to get back there... last time I was there the old gondola was still running...

 

[Warp Daddy]

i usually get to Gore a couple times a season . I always have fun there lots of variety and now that they've bypassed the old horrible flat section on Cloud skiing from the gondola is a good alternative . I like skiing the stuff off the true summit too and down to the old summit double and when the wind is nasty the Sleeping Bear section is a great place to get out of the wind .

. Didn't get there last yr so haven'r skied Burnt Ridge trails

 

[x10003q]

The following info is on the Gore web. This is from the Appendix 2 Economic analysis pdf.
I happen to question the current estimate of 65 destination/35 day skiers. There is a nice pie chart (that I could not copy) that shows the distribution. However Gore does not show how many tickets were sold to which regions. Also, Albany (20%) plus Saratoga/Glenns Falls (18%) adds up to 38%. All these skiers are a day trip away (in theory). They might visit more individual day trips than the (overnight) NYC/NJ/LI total of 33%.

"In 1995, Gore estimates that their skier mix was 35 percent destination skiers and 65 percent day skiers. In comparison, the ski facility currently (2007) estimates that the mix is 65 percent destination skiers and 35 percent day skiers. As such, Gore’s economic impact has increased not only in response to higher ski visit numbers, but also in response to increasing numbers of destination skiers.
The graphic below shows the geographic distribution of Gore skiers in recent years.

Geographic Distribution: Gore Skiers

Albany - 20%
Canada - 1%
Central & Western NY - 10%
Connecticut - 3%
Hudson Valley - 3%
Long Island - 10%
Mid-Atlantic - 4%
New England - 3%
New Jersey - 13%
NYC - 10%
Other USA - 2%
Pennsylvania - 3%
Saratoga/Glens Falls - 18%

 

[skimore]

The following info is on the Gore web. This is from the Appendix 2 Economic analysis pdf.
I happen to question the current estimate of 65 destination/35 day skiers. There is a nice pie chart (that I could not copy) that shows the distribution. However Gore does not show how many tickets were sold to which regions. Also, Albany (20%) plus Saratoga/Glenns Falls (18%) adds up to 38%. All these skiers are a day trip away (in theory). They might visit more individual day trips than the (overnight) NYC/NJ/LI total of 33%.

"In 1995, Gore estimates that their skier mix was 35 percent destination skiers and 65 percent day skiers. In comparison, the ski facility currently (2007) estimates that the mix is 65 percent destination skiers and 35 percent day skiers. As such, Gore’s economic impact has increased not only in response to higher ski visit numbers, but also in response to increasing numbers of destination skiers.
The graphic below shows the geographic distribution of Gore skiers in recent years.

Geographic Distribution: Gore Skiers

Albany - 20%
Canada - 1%
Central & Western NY - 10%
Connecticut - 3%
Hudson Valley - 3%
Long Island - 10%
Mid-Atlantic - 4%
New England - 3%
New Jersey - 13%
NYC - 10%
Other USA - 2%
Pennsylvania - 3%
Saratoga/Glens Falls - 18%

I'd like to know where the 65 percent destination skiers are staying

 

[crank]

Me 'n the boys certainly enjoyed Cirque Glade over at Burnt Ridge last MLK weekend. Probably be there again MLK 2010.

Here's a few pics...

 

[witch hobble]

I'd like to know where the 65 percent destination skiers are staying

My guess is they either made it up or they somehow redefined "destination skier". It is a vague enough term to allow for that. Perhaps they allowed people to define themselves. Or took a random sampling of one gondola cabin load.

That said, it is a fun place to ski.

 

[catskills]

I kinda doubt that. If that where true they would be traveling 3+ hours depending on how far south they are starting. The bulk of Gore skiers are from Albany- Saratoga- Glens Falls areas. It is still largely a day trip place. Gore certainly does have asperations of becoming a destination resort in the near future. Time will tell.

From Gore Suplimental Environmental Impact Statement on Page 59 Figure 4-2

 

[x10003q]

I'd like to know where the 65 percent destination skiers are staying

I would like to know also. I think that the 65% is BS, but I could be wrong. They do ask for zip codes when you buy the lift ticket. A 2 day ticket with a NJ zip would most likely indicate an overnight stay. I guess if you include from Lake George Village to Scroon Lake to Indian Lake to Speculator (?) there are quite a few vacation type places to stay that are in a reasonable driving distance.

 

[tjf67]

They get the snow?

That's news to them, according to their published snowfall statistics.

It might be news to you but not them...

 

[legalskier]

I'm one of those that drive past the Catskills to go to Gore. It's comparing apples and oranges as far as terrain

You're depriving yourself of some excellent terrain. Gore is a fun mountain which I plan on skiing this season, but if you want steeps there, it's basically Rumor, the (unnamed?) trail under Staightbrook Quad and Darkside Glades (I haven't skied Burnt Ridge yet). I'd put all of Hunter West/LowerK27/Racer's Edge/Crossover up against Gore any day for steeps. Plattekill has Blockbuster, Freefall, Plunge and glades. Windham has Wheelchair and Wedel, and Cathedral Brook, Dot Nebel, Onteora and the glades at Belleayre are a lot of fun. IMHO, you ought to give them a try sometime; you would save yourself time and gas.