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Green Peak at Waterville

Los

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I think it's a smart and economical move given an underused triple and the availability of the Green Peak terrain. That terrain probably doesn't justify a HSQ, and the payback period to finance one would be too long and questionable.

I saw the official press release and it was pretty clear they were installing a fixed grip lift, though it was silent on it being a used/relocated chair. It's amazing what the press will do to pump up a story, facts be damned.

It's Waterville that prepares the press release, not the press. If you compare the press release posted on the website with the story in the paper, you can tell that the story was substantially based on the press release. The reporter may not have cared enough to dig deeper or maybe didn't even think about it.


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Los

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Its a dumb move from the perspective of lift orientation. The entire pod should be serviced by a HSQ including Valley Run. But from a business perspective, they are getting a new pod for $2m. And they don't have money to do it right. So its about as good as its going to get unless a new owner with money to burn takes over.

I have beginner kids. Waterville is not that good for beginners. I don't see this as much of an improvement. I doubt I will even go to Waterville. I will go to Pat's Peak. Then perhaps Bretton Woods.

By the way, I'm not sure Bretton is any better for absolute beginners (the jam anyone?) than Waterville. For advanced novices maybe, but for those just starting out I don't think either has an advantage over the other.


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By the way, I'm not sure Bretton is any better for absolute beginners (the jam anyone?) than Waterville. For advanced novices maybe, but for those just starting out I don't think either has an advantage over the other.


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BW beginner quad is much easier lift to ride than the Lower Meadow lift.
 

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I didn't realize Chris Sununu is running for governor. I suppose this Waterville development indicates his is frugal with money and fit the NH way. Although perhaps he lacks vision...

Anyways, Waterville has become a source of political attacks on sununu.
http://www.unionleader.com/article/20160904/NEWS0604/160909749

I suppose a ski area owner governor would be good. Although perhaps a conflict of interest with Cannon and Sunapee.
 

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I believe he's already laid out a plan for the resort if he should be elected. Hanging onto businesses like that would absolutely be a conflict of interest!
 

Smellytele

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I believe he's already laid out a plan for the resort if he should be elected. Hanging onto businesses like that would absolutely be a conflict of interest!

He was already on the executive council which in NH has the power. The Governor is really just a figure head in NH.
 

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I believe he's already laid out a plan for the resort if he should be elected. Hanging onto businesses like that would absolutely be a conflict of interest!

Maybe just me but there's no way this should be an automatically driven decision. That's the REAL problem, noone wants to dig into the details of anything anymore. It's all guided by store-bought titles. Most often these rules are created by the lifelong, career politicians who know absolutley nothing about stimulating re-training and thus job creation thoughout society.
 

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Wouldn't it be best to paint it in its new location? So there's no scratches from construction?
 

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Still amazed WV is relocating that ancient, slow lift to their new area. Also curious how they'll be able to manage the snow there, they were barely able to get the main mountain operational last winter and I've heard they've lost many mountain ops employees.
 

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I've heard they didn't exactly lose the employees as they more let them go or sorta forced them out. This is from an old racing buddy who is there a lot, so it's total heresay, but the way their ops have suffered I could believe it.
 

doublediamond

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Ancient? It's from 1986 and heavily modded in 2000 including a whole new drive terminal.
 

machski

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Wouldn't it be best to paint it in its new location? So there's no scratches from construction?

Likely would be too cold to paint metal by then. Quicker too if they had the crews available before the move happens while nothing was going on. Considering when they actually started clearing, this is moving along quite rapidly IMHO.
 

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I'm just curious if they'll get snowmaking installed in time. That's the one thing I'm not certain of.
 

canobie#1

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I highly doubt they would plan on opening this peak without snowmaking, so I wouldn't worry. This addition looks really nice, hopefully it skis just as good as it looks.
 

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I'm just curious if they'll get snowmaking installed in time. That's the one thing I'm not certain of.

Hey Jully can you buy me some lotto tickets! :lol:

With ground frost and snow coming and going on Green Peak, management reportedly acknowledges that total excavation of the new trails will not be completed this year. Much of the novice terrain has been excavated and a temporary snowmaking infrastructure is being installed from South Street to the summit. New advanced terrain may open this winter if natural snowfall allows.

http://www.newenglandskiindustry.com/viewstory.php?storyid=510

I still say they won't even get the lift running this year. Towers not in place yet? This whole expansion is half-assed. No HSQ as planned. No snowmaking this year. Trail work won't be done. Lift might get open. Bullshit. I feel for any of the WV skiers.
 

deadheadskier

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Well, it's not uncommon for even the wealthy well run mountains to not complete excavation and install snowmaking all in one summer. I recall that being the case with a trail or two on South face at Okemo. Same thing in Sunbowl at Stratton.

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