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thaller1

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Good stuff, thanks! :) I got rid of all the pills and take Ageless Xtra now, a liquid supplement that's all natural and tastes great. I've started a business with the company Univera and was curious as to what people are looking for...looks like a lot of joint issues among the skiing community. I have arthritis and have felts worlds better since starting this product..16 advil to none!!!

I agree with the comments about getting our vitamins from food, this is a food concentrate basically a juice... different from pills. Now I don't have to cart my pharmacy to Utah every year.. LOL

Thanks everyone!
 

TheBEast

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Daily Multi-Vitamin, Vitamin C and Glucosamine for the joints (which has really helped with overall knee soreness).

Like Radio Ron says, if it does half of what it says it's supposed to do, then I'm ahead of the game!!
 

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Chondroitin/Glucosamine
fish oil omega 3 tabs
multi vitamin
STOPPED all anti-inflammatories

I've got neck/shoulder issues and have felt better than i have in years and attribute alot of it to the last item. after seeing a segment on prolotherapy (flyers fwd simon gagne between periodsof a hockey game) and seeing a buddy go on dialysis from ibuprofen, i decided to stop regular use about a year ago and hve felt much better. my wife has since been doing prolotherapy treatments.it makes sense that the inflammation is a healing process of the body.
 

thaller1

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Chondroitin/Glucosamine
fish oil omega 3 tabs
multi vitamin
STOPPED all anti-inflammatories

I've got neck/shoulder issues and have felt better than i have in years and attribute alot of it to the last item. after seeing a segment on prolotherapy (flyers fwd simon gagne between periodsof a hockey game) and seeing a buddy go on dialysis from ibuprofen, i decided to stop regular use about a year ago and hve felt much better. my wife has since been doing prolotherapy treatments.it makes sense that the inflammation is a healing process of the body.

thanks for this information!! I have neck/shoulder issues as well due to injury and have been a regular user of Advil for many many years...it concerns me about the kidney issues... I
 

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Multi-Vitamin & as healthy foods as possible.
Glucosamine/Chondroitin - (1 pill every ~3rd day) enough?? Feels enough, but increase when the snow starts falling.
Liquids: Water(>bottled, as clean as I can find), Grape juice, and Celery+Apple juice from my Power Juicer..!;-)
Trying to limit the coffee....
Keeping up with the daily exercises/walks(sprints), and try to keep a weekly paddle/hike schedule..
$.01
 

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Have you seen the Radio Ron special feature in the Wanderland DVD? :-o
 

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Herbs from the acupuncurist three times daily. Amazing how well I feel overall. Cured a whole list of ailments I didn't know I had.
 

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Glucosamine / chondroitin. Triple strength- 2 per day
Multi-vitamin
Vitamin D 800mg/day
Selenium, I think it's 80mg
 

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C. That's it. And especially on a night when I've been imbibing a bit too much. Takes the next morning's hangover right away.

Otherwise, the answer about getting your vitamins from food it the right one.
 

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I will add that if I remember, I take cod liver oil but that's only because we don't eat fish so I feel I should supplement there.
 

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Lots of Glucosamine / chondroitin users here. My doctors told me to try it to relieve creaky and stiff knees.

When you run out and forget to re-stock, how long does it take you to notice the difference?

For me, it's 3-4 days and I feel (the lack of it) in my knees.
 

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Don't get too hung up on all natural. Arsenic is all natural, let's not forget.

What's do you mean by that, Marc? Natural products tend to be better absorbed/used by the body. That doesn't mean that all things natural are good for you (as you noted, arsenic is natural) but generally speaking, if you ingest foods or even supplements that are natural, they're better for your body than synthetic, non-food stuffs.
 

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What's do you mean by that, Marc? Natural products tend to be better absorbed/used by the body. That doesn't mean that all things natural are good for you (as you noted, arsenic is natural) but generally speaking, if you ingest foods or even supplements that are natural, they're better for your body than synthetic, non-food stuffs.
The point is there's a ton of stuff out there that's natural that's complete crap. Natural vs. synthetic is useless, because there are good and bad for both. There's probably more natural things out there that are bad for your body than synthetic. Plus humans have the benefit of science that enables us to specifically address certain issues as needed, rather than relying on food which is healthy for the population but possibly non-ideal for individuals.

Focus on how effective something is, not where it came from.

(Plus I don't see how man-made stuff isn't natural. People are natural, things made by other animals are considered natural, why isn't man-made stuff natural? But I digress.)
 

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Here is the product data for Ageless Xtra by Univera for review and discussion...


Supplement Facts
Serving Size 1 fl. oz. concentrate or
3.3 fl. oz. (one bottle) ready-to-drink
Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
Calories 20
Total Carbohydrate 5 g < 2%*
Sugars 3 g
Vitamin B3 (niacinamide; niacin) 18 mg 90%
Vitamin B6 (pyridoxal 5-phosphate) 4 mg 200%
Serenix™ corn extract (Zea mays; leaf; 2:1) 250 mg †
Green tea extract (leaf) 220 mg †
(70% polyphenols; 25% EGCG; 5% theanine)
Rhodiola crenulata extract (Ultrin TG®) 150 mg †
(root; 3% salidroside)
OKG (ornithine alpha-ketoglutarate) 150 mg †
Protectin™ Proprietary Blend 125 mg †
Scutellaria baicalensis extract (root)
Acacia catechu extract (heartwood)
Cordyceps sinensis extract (mycelium) 125 mg †
Fruit Concentrate Blend 6g †
(grape, cranberry, blueberry, cherry)
Aloe vera 200:1 powder †
(leaf; inner gel) (ACTIValoe®) 51 mg
Ginkgo biloba extract (leaf) 10 mg †
(24% ginko flavonoids; 6% terpene lactones)
Alpha lipoic acid 10 mg †
MaxCell™ Proprietary Blend 2.5 mg
Jujube extract (fruit) †
Black Pepper extract (fruit) †
Aloe vera (dried gel) †
Chinese Licorice (root) †
*Percent Daily Value based on a 2,000 calorie diet.
† Daily Value not established.
Other ingredients: Purified water, sorbitol, beet juice, Lo han guo extract, sucralose, citric acid, sodium benzoate (preservative), potassium sorbate (preservative).
Suggested Use, concentrate: Mix with 3-5 ounces


tanyahaller.myunivera.com

Have fun!

T
 

severine

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Sucralose is not "all-natural." Not by far. It's chemically engineered in a lab by chlorinating sugar. IIRC, it is metabolized into formaldehyde. Gives me NASTY migraines (and it's not psycho-somatic...I discovered this data after I couldn't figure out why Fruit2O was giving me migraines--stopped ingesting sucralose and they went away).

This isn't the best source for info, but here it is, nonetheless:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sucralose
 

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Sucralose is not "all-natural." Not by far. It's chemically engineered in a lab by chlorinating sugar. IIRC, it is metabolized into formaldehyde. Gives me NASTY migraines (and it's not psycho-somatic...I discovered this data after I couldn't figure out why Fruit2O was giving me migraines--stopped ingesting sucralose and they went away).

This isn't the best source for info, but here it is, nonetheless:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sucralose

I'm actually agreeing with you, in my previous post, in a wierd sort of way. And mondeo too. Not all things natural are necessarily healthy; and one of the big problems is, good luck nailing any food producer down on what constitutes "natural." Remember those inane commercials by the corn lobby claiming high fructose corn syrup is "natural?" Yeah. Not quite.

I'm not trying to split hairs on terminology here, but I'd say it's more important to focus on whole foods, and little processing. That has perhaps a slightly less arbitrary meaning, or perhaps at least more people have correct associations with those terms. Hell, even with fish oil that's minimally "processed;" is anyone really sure the omega 3's are just as beneficial to our diet in the absence of the proteins and myraid of other compounds found in the fish flesh?
 

severine

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The point is there's a ton of stuff out there that's natural that's complete crap. Natural vs. synthetic is useless, because there are good and bad for both. There's probably more natural things out there that are bad for your body than synthetic. Plus humans have the benefit of science that enables us to specifically address certain issues as needed, rather than relying on food which is healthy for the population but possibly non-ideal for individuals.

Focus on how effective something is, not where it came from.

(Plus I don't see how man-made stuff isn't natural. People are natural, things made by other animals are considered natural, why isn't man-made stuff natural? But I digress.)
There are a lot of man-made products that are pretty detrimental to health, yet approved by the FDA: aspartame, sucralose, and high fructose corn syrup come to mind initially. And it isn't natural; it's not found that way in nature, hence not "natural." Any company that claims something is "all-natural" yet includes genetically-altered/chemically-altered ingredients isn't "all-natural." You'll see a lot of things out there with the "all-natural" claim that have HFCS, for example. NOT possible! Wrong use of the term.

I agree somewhat on what you're saying but I do think that food formulated in a lab is not food at all.

Marc, I see what you're saying on the supplements, fish oil in particular. That's a case where I make an exception because I figure at least one component is better than none. I don't like the taste or smell of fish, it is not appetizing to me, I have tried and cannot get past this. Since it's supposed to be so healthy for me, though, I'm willing to take a chance. I get a cod liver oil supplement that is supposed to be minimally processed and one of the best out there (again, that's subjective but I hope for the best there) because I figure I should try to get at least some of the benefits than none.

Whole foods are, ideally, the best source of nutrients/vitamins/etc. However, I will selectively choose all-natural over something that's a run-amok lab experiment. I speak on this largely from the food industry perspective because I do have a vested interest there with the company that I now sell for, but I don't eat something just because it's "all natural"--I investigate further.
 
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