How stiff is your...................

[skibum9995]

Nordica Dobermann 130

 

[snowmonster]

Lange World Cup 120 -- in the baby blue color that Andyzee loves! My next boot will probably be a BD Factor. Just to drive home the point that flex ratings are not standard: the Factor has a rating of 130 which should make it stiffer than the WC 120. However, most people who have tried both the Lange WC 120 and BD Factor (myself included) think the Factor is less stiff.

 

[Hawkshot99]

Hawk, here's a real brief article from Scarpa hyping their Intuition liners, but I think it supports what I said about half sizes.

The bootfitter I go too only stocks boots in half sizes cause he sees no point in having the same size boot with 2 different sizes.

http://thegoat.backcountry.com/blog/2007/01/15/scarpa-intuition-liners/

O, I agree about the lack of difference between 1/2 and full sizes. I just read what you had typed as nordica does not make a 1/2 in those series.

 

[tcharron]

Atomic Hawks 100 for me. My feet stay put!

How they work compared to the M100's? When I was looking at them, I went with the M100's, purely because I found deal on them. (199$ last ones special last year)

 

[dmj]

I have only ski'd them twice. My feet felt great all day. I ski blues almost all day then hit some blacks later in the day.

I just got back into skiing after about 14 years off.
I chose them because they had the best fit on my feet and I got them during a sale. I bought Ski's and boots at same time. I got Solomon X wing 10's and the Atomic boots.

 

[basemoto]

Realizing that world cup racers use 150 flex rating boots most recreational skiers do not need this kind of stiffness. Most skiers don't need anything over 130. Must remember that boots stiffen up a lot when your actually on the hill and in the cold, some brands more than others. I notice nordica's stiffen up a good amount in the cold. You don't want to be skied by the boots you want to ski the boot.

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

Realizing that world cup racers use 150 flex rating boots most recreational skiers do not need this kind of stiffness. Most skiers don't need anything over 130. Must remember that boots stiffen up a lot when your actually on the hill and in the cold, some brands more than others. I notice nordica's stiffen up a good amount in the cold. You don't want to be skied by the boots you want to ski the boot.

I have to ski a looser boot on cold days..the plastic on my ski boots is starting to bend a little..is that bad?

 

[basemoto]

it it seems to affect the integrity of the boot that's bad but if not, it surely doesn't matter. I know an atomic rep and you can actually cut slits in the boot shell for more expansion in the toe area and it wouldn't affect the integrity of the boot.

 

[lerops]

i just looked it up. my dalbello proton 8's are a 90. dont even know what that means.

Same here. I have the funny looking white ones. :razz:

There is no standard for flex rating. One manufacturer's 100 might be another's 80 or another's 120. The flex is just for a point of reference in their own line.

Is there a widely-accepted relative ranking (along the lines of X is stiffer than Y, and Z is the stiffest) or is it a total crapshoot?

 

[basemoto]

i think it is just to get an idea of where the boot stands within a manufacturers line of boot. It is up to what you like really, each boot is different for everyone. Everyone flexes at different pressures, everyone has different leverage in the boot, etc.

 

[bigbog]

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My Garmont Endorphins are probably ~95 out on the mountain. A little stiffer boot is smooth but these ski & fit well...sooo...but as said about no true industry standard. The thicker part of the Intuition liner stiffens the fflex up a little...so gives pretty good response for me @175, and the cuff's forward lean is perfect for me. Having mentioned info about fflex, can't tell you how often I've spent 1/2 a day in walk-mode before realizing....:lol:

 

[andyzee]

Being I'm in no rush, cheap as possible :lol: Since I do not desperately need, it would probably take finding a bargain of about $300. If I get to the point I do need, that changes to $500 - $600

OK, just ordered the Speedmachine 14 ski boots for $399 shipping included!

 

[RISkier]

My Lange L10's are 130 flex, my Atomic Hawx 110's are 110.

How do you like those Hawx? Aren't they designed to give your foot a little flexibility? FWIW, I have some Langes rated at 100 flex, but I don't think there's any consistency between brands in terms of flex ratings.

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

OK, just ordered the Speedmachine 14 ski boots for $399 shipping included!

You won't be sorry. My oldest son skis those boots and likes them overall better then any he's ever had.

 

[andyzee]

You won't be sorry. My oldest son skis those boots and likes them overall better then any he's ever had.

I tried them on a couple of times and instantly loved the feel.

 

[Mildcat]

OK, just ordered the Speedmachine 14 ski boots for $399 shipping included!

Nice score.

 

[bigbog]

...sm 14..

Nice boot andyzee, and nice liner!(if they haven't changed it)
$.01

 

[wa-loaf]

OK, just ordered the Speedmachine 14 ski boots for $399 shipping included!

Nice! I might want to upgrade to pair of those in a year or two. I like my boots, but the speedmachines are a hella lot easier to get in and out of.

 

[andyzee]

Took the Speed Machine 14s out for their maiden voyage today. Sweet freakin boot, love em! They are so much more responsive than my old Beasts.

 

[Geoff]

I'm on 2006 Head RS100 shells. 101 the way I have them set up.