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If 2015-2016 was the average Northeast winter, would you still live here?

Razor

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Rode up the lift at Vail once with an old guy. He said that he and his wife spent winter in Vail and summer in Chatham on the Cape. That sounded like a good plan if you could pull it off.
 

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I'm sure mine wasn't the first or last opinion you'll ever hear regarding someone's home town. I could go into "actual problems" like massive homeless population, way more narcotics than normal in a town this size, piss poor drinking water, the whole downtown situation (which if you're a resident you'd know exactly what I mean by that). But why bother telling someone from NH about my hometown's problems. I'm sure you've heard there's good concerts here and there's nice restaurants and stuff. The town does have its upsides. There's a lot of lipstick on this pig.

heroin and opiates are a major problem and public health crisis all throughout western new england and much of the urban and suburban and rural united states right now. that isnt a noho problem, its an america problem. it's definitely being felt very acutely along i-91 tho.
 

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2 years ago i was pretty much ready to move to colorado. i lost a job i hated, i was single, friends were moving to denver, and it just seemed like the right fit. i was basically waiting for my 5 year anniversary of being admitted to the NY Bar so that i could waive into CO without taking the exam. then i got a series of promotions and raises at a new job that actually gave me enough time off to ski legitimate numbers of days, and casual girlfriend became serious girlfriend became long term girlfriend, and here i am. 40 ski days in a good year, 30 in an average year, and ~15 of those days consistently out west. if i were to lose the current job situation i'd be considering denver, portland or bend oregon, seatle, reno, salt lake. i dont think i could straight up move to jackson or whistler or vail or wherever. i need some semblance of a real city where life goes on without skiing being the #1 driver of culture and economy.
 

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I would because my wife wouldn't want to live in Colorado, Utah or California. The only other place she'd want to live besides the Northeast is Florida and I definitely don't want to live there.
Think I'm in the same boat...we also have family in the northeast (wife's is in MA and mine's in NJ).

Was before skiing but we lived in CA (Sacramento area) around 20 years ago. Didn't feel right the whole time we were there and we couldn't wait to get back. Seemed vacant for some reason.

I may change my mind when we retire in 15 years or so...one thing I have definitely said, however, is that moving to FL after retirement is out of the question.
 

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I'm not moving anywhere until they tear down Xanadu and there's no chance it will open.
 

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Rode up the lift at Vail once with an old guy. He said that he and his wife spent winter in Vail and summer in Chatham on the Cape. That sounded like a good plan if you could pull it off.

Did he say he and his wife were traveling around in a motorhome? I meet a couple in the late 90's there who were doing the same thing.
 

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heroin and opiates are a major problem and public health crisis all throughout western new england and much of the urban and suburban and rural united states right now. that isnt a noho problem, its an america problem. it's definitely being felt very acutely along i-91 tho.

Being arrested for dealing heroin needs to be "attempted murder".

Put those wastes of carbon & h2o in prison for eons rather than slapping their wrist.
 

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on this we maybe almost sort of agree. however, a great deal of fault lives with a medical community who have horridly overprescribed heavyduty prescription painkillers and played a huge role in causing the problem. selling heroin should be very illegal and have harsh consequences. using heroin should not. providing harm mitigation services and treatment alternatives instead of incarceration is the way to handle a non violent hard drug user who doesnt steal.
 

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on this we maybe almost sort of agree. however, a great deal of fault lives with a medical community who have horridly overprescribed heavyduty prescription painkillers and played a huge role in causing the problem. selling heroin should be very illegal and have harsh consequences. using heroin should not. providing harm mitigation services and treatment alternatives instead of incarceration is the way to handle a non violent hard drug user who doesnt steal.


Pharma is not to blame. If you look at the total number of heroin addicts, the number that started on validly rx'd opioids via physician is a drop in the proverbial bucket. Regardless, were I king for a day, I would get positively medieval on drug dealers.
 

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Pharma is not to blame. If you look at the total number of heroin addicts, the number that started on validly rx'd opioids via physician is a drop in the proverbial bucket. Regardless, were I king for a day, I would get positively medieval on drug dealers.

But how many started on pills that were prescribed to someone else? I agree that Pharma is not to blame. There is a place for painkillers. But I am of the opinion that painkillers were vastly over prescribed by physicians - and most likely still are.
 

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Not sure... if my goal is to minimize the risk of a bad ski season and still live in the continental US, I suppose Colorado would be the best choice, right?

The problem is that Colorado has this southwest vibe/aesthetic (at least the part where I was) which is just not appealing to me. Not sure I could exchange New England/northeast in general for adobe architecture, desert-like vegetation, etc.

All in all though, 'twould be a very difficult decision to make...
 

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2 years ago i was pretty much ready to move to colorado. i lost a job i hated, i was single, friends were moving to denver, and it just seemed like the right fit. i was basically waiting for my 5 year anniversary of being admitted to the NY Bar so that i could waive into CO without taking the exam. then i got a series of promotions and raises at a new job that actually gave me enough time off to ski legitimate numbers of days, and casual girlfriend became serious girlfriend became long term girlfriend, and here i am. 40 ski days in a good year, 30 in an average year, and ~15 of those days consistently out west. if i were to lose the current job situation i'd be considering denver, portland or bend oregon, seatle, reno, salt lake. i dont think i could straight up move to jackson or whistler or vail or wherever. i need some semblance of a real city where life goes on without skiing being the #1 driver of culture and economy.

I think a viable airport is a necessity out there and one ofthe things we will look at closely. Family roots back here in the east will have us going back and forth no matter where we end up. Salt Lake is our current favorite but we still have some time to figure it out.

Alex

Lake Hopatcong, NJ
 

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I'm not trying to get into a religious debate, but how easy is it for a non-Mormon moving to Salt Lake City to fit in? It's the only reason why I would hesitate choosing Salt Lake City if I was inclined to move to ski country.

Denver has some phenomenal skiing a couple of hours away, but IMHO Denver itself is one of the most overrated cities in the United States. I like Colorado Springs and Fort Collins much better.
 

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To the original question...
Absolutely Yes !

If your life totally revolves around skiing, move to a glacier.

... and yes, SLC is lame and boring unless you are a LDS.
 

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I'm not trying to get into a religious debate, but how easy is it for a non-Mormon moving to Salt Lake City to fit in? It's the only reason why I would hesitate choosing Salt Lake City if I was inclined to move to ski country.

I've never been to Utah, but the Mormons I've known in my life have been some of the friendliest people you'd ever hope to meet. I have a hard time believing it would be a problem, and SLC's population is big enough that I have a hard time believing there's not a church of every other religion in town as well.
 

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I've never been to Utah, but the Mormons I've known in my life have been some of the friendliest people you'd ever hope to meet. I have a hard time believing it would be a problem, and SLC's population is big enough that I have a hard time believing there's not a church of every other religion in town as well.

I definitely agree that Mormons are quite friendly. The reason I asked, however, is because a non-Mormon I know who lived in SLC was very sensitive about this. Granted, this was many years ago. I think it had to do with being able to achieve certain positions (such as elected and/or appointed positions) as a non-Mormon.
 
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