Indy Ski Pass

[Edd]

I think I'm gonna buy a ticket there tomorrow so that's good hear.

On the lower half of the mountain you’ll find a bunch of twigs popping through the snow on ungroomed trails. They’re more rugged than they look, they grabbed my skis a bunch of times. My friend went down on her snowboard from one of them.

 

[snoseek]

On the lower half of the mountain you’ll find a bunch of twigs popping through the snow on ungroomed trails. They’re more rugged than they look, they grabbed my skis a bunch of times. My friend went down on her snowboard from one of them.

Good to know. Im skiing my old enforcers so I'll plow through hopefully

 

[snoseek]

Yeah they're knocking it out of the park at black. Lots more snowmaking. 5 dollar tuckermans and 2 dollar slices of decent pizza. Michelle from wildcat poured my beer.

 

[deadheadskier]

Glad she got away from Cat

 

[snoseek]

Glad she got away from Cat

She is there on Saturdays but yeah she seems happy at black.

The cruiser trails had a really nice base on them. They've definitely stepped up their snowmaking game. And no worries the barbed wire is still there lol

 

[abc]

I can't disclose the actual rates, but Indy def loses money on guys like you and me, and makes it all back and then some on the average user which probably cashes in maybe 3-5 days a year (assuming they match the usual season pass redemption rates seen industry wide which falls in that range).

When I saw for the first time the reported utilization rate of mega passes, I admit I was shocked!

Obviously, there had to be some people who didn’t manage to break even due to various reason. But I assumed those would be unexpected reasons, which should be relatively rare. Finding out the percentage of people who only use their ”season” pass only a few times is so high it’s a little surprising. Why did all these people even bother to buy a pass? They would have to be way better off just pay walk up price! (Keep in mind they would then have 100% freedom to ski anywhere they want rather than where they sunk their season pass money on)

I’ve been told this is also true of gym memberships, where people‘s illusion of their workout habit far exceed reality.

To accept we‘re all benefitting from a large number of people who threw away their money on illusion, makes me feel a bit sad. But it’s even worse to realize so much of the businesses in the ski industry are making money not so much on providing service but collecting “illusional premium” on people who never actually use the product!

 

[snoseek]

When I saw for the first time the reported utilization rate of mega passes, I admit I was shocked!

Obviously, there had to be some people who didn’t manage to break even due to various reason. But I assumed those would be unexpected reasons, which should be relatively rare. Finding out the percentage of people who only use their ”season” pass only a few times is so high it’s a little surprising. Why did all these people even bother to buy a pass? They would have to be way better off just pay walk up price! (Keep in mind they would then have 100% freedom to ski anywhere they want rather than where they sunk their season pass money on)

I’ve been told this is also true of gym memberships, where people‘s illusion of their workout habit far exceed reality.

To accept we‘re all benefitting from a large number of people who threw away their money on illusion, makes me feel a bit sad. But it’s even worse to realize so much of the businesses in the ski industry are making money not so much on providing service but collecting “illusional premium” on people who never actually use the product!

Fuck that I'm fine with it. If they don't use their pass that's on them.

 

[KustyTheKlown]

if you know you are going to ski like 3+ days, it makes sense to buy a pass. plenty of 'annual family ski trip' people buy the pass and show up 3-5 days, and that aint my problem.

 

[thebigo]

regret not getting the indy add on this year, would have already used two WV days, one ragged day, plus a day at jay later this month would have probably paid for the thing. BW would be excellent addition to indy pass but probably never happen.

cannon resident, indy add on and boyne silver next year - not cheap but excellent variety and season length.

 

[deadheadskier]

Well Bigo, abc might feel sorry for you if you only use Indy 4 times.

 

[abc]

Yes, I feel sorry for all those who‘re stuck skiing in ice and rain because they’ve paid for the pass on some place that just got an inch of … “wintery mix”!

 

[jimmywilson69]

Hey now... for some of us thats just regular winter!!

 

[millerm277]

Obviously, there had to be some people who didn’t manage to break even due to various reason. But I assumed those would be unexpected reasons, which should be relatively rare. Finding out the percentage of people who only use their ”season” pass only a few times is so high it’s a little surprising. Why did all these people even bother to buy a pass? They would have to be way better off just pay walk up price! (Keep in mind they would then have 100% freedom to ski anywhere they want rather than where they sunk their season pass money on)

For the megaresorts? Not really. You can be running $200/day or in that ballpark for busy weekend days for lift tickets these days. Insanity, but if those are all you ski you've probably broken even with your pass even in the ~4 day range, or come pretty close.

 

[Killingtime]

For the megaresorts? Not really. You can be running $200/day or in that ballpark for busy weekend days for lift tickets these days. Insanity, but if those are all you ski you've probably broken even with your pass even in the ~4 day range, or come pretty close.

Yep. Just skied four days at Copper. Pretty much covered my Ikon base pass.

 

[KustyTheKlown]

hey assholes. youre all wrong for buying season passes of any variety. smart people pay walk up rates at west mountain to ski in an ice storm while there is powder slight north of there.

 

[doublediamond]

If a mountain is open for 100 days, with a ticket checker working 8 hour days ... the payback for RFID with gates is about 3-4 years before you factor in training expenses and employer-paid taxes.

It's a no brainer to go RFID. There's a reason everyone is moving that way.

 

[Cat in January]

Could you expand on that math a bit. I assume that you are talking vs traditional wickets, but maybe not

 

[Smellytele]

If a mountain is open for 100 days, with a ticket checker working 8 hour days ... the payback for RFID with gates is about 3-4 years before you factor in training expenses and employer-paid taxes.

It's a no brainer to go RFID. There's a reason everyone is moving that way.

But half the places I have skied still had people working the gates if something went wrong also noticed At Jackson hole they had some guy standing there looking at a screen which I have seen at other places (Stowe for example) as well.

 

[KustyTheKlown]

They are looking at pics to catch theft of service

 

[kbroderick]

But half the places I have skied still had people working the gates if something went wrong also noticed At Jackson hole they had some guy standing there looking at a screen which I have seen at other places (Stowe for example) as well.

You still need a human watching the gate to deal with challenged guests (bad cards, stack of three cards from different resorts in one pocket, etc) and those who are trying to sneak through behind their buddies, using a toddler pass, or going around the edge, etc. But they don't need to be able to look at or scan each individual pass, so it makes it much harder to ski without a ticket or to ski with a five-use punch ticket and avoid getting it punched.