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is december gonna be a wash

JimG.

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But I understand that the original author is in a situation where he is trying to ski in the Catskills, which are south of where I am.

Your point?

I ski in the Catskills and I've got as many days in as you. And I think there are as many ski areas open in NY as in VT or NH or anywhere else in the East.

The weather is difficult for anyone who skis on the east coast. But the opportunities do exist to ski as you and I have found out.

So just get out there.
 

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Your point?

I ski in the Catskills and I've got as many days in as you. And I think there are as many ski areas open in NY as in VT or NH or anywhere else in the East.

The weather is difficult for anyone who skis on the east coast. But the opportunities do exist to ski as you and I have found out.

So just get out there.

I understand what he said he wants: colder temps. Up north, we've had colder temps than down in the 'skills. Not much colder, but colder.
but i want cold..i want bitter cold..i want it so cold that only the die hards go out and all little kids are crying cause they have frozen hands and feet.....sorry needed to rant
 

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I understand what he said he wants: colder temps. Up north, we've had colder temps than down in the 'skills. Not much colder, but colder.

But I don't think that's the kind of cold he was talking about...he's talking about cold like last Friday.

I know, splitting hairs. Everyone is getting burned by the weather right now.
 

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I was just reading the latest forecast discussion for my area (Hartford) and the weather guessers say a pattern change is happening for early next week and we will have cold weather for at least the period of the 18-20th and this MAY signal the beginings of a more permanent pattern change:

Right now it is pouring rain here in bloomfield:smash: :uzi: :flame:
 

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Always look on the bright side of life.
[whistling]
Always look on the light side of life.
[whistling]
If life seems jolly rotten, There's something you've forgotten, And that's to laugh and smile and dance and sing. When you're feeling in the dumps, Don't be silly chumps. Just purse your lips and whistle. That's the thing. And...
Always look on the bright side of life.
[whistling]
Always look on the right side of life,
[whistling]
For life is quite absurd And death's the final word. You must always face the curtain with a bow. Forget about your sin. Give the audience a grin. Enjoy it. It's your last chance, anyhow. So,...
Always look on the bright side of death,
[whistling]
Just before you draw your terminal breath.
[whistling]
Life's a piece of shit, When you look at it. Life's a laugh and death's a joke. It's true. You'll see it's all a show. Keep 'em laughing as you go. Just remember that the last laugh is on you. And...
Always look on the bright side of life.
[whistling]
Always look on the right side of life.
[whistling]
Always look on the bright side of life! [whistling] Always look on the bright side of life!
[whistling]
Always look on the bright side of life!
[whistling]
Always look on the bright side of life!
[whistling]
Always look on the bright side of life!
[whistling]
Always look on the bright side of life!
[whistling]
Always look on the bright side of life!
[whistling]
Always look on the bright side of life!
[whistling]
Killington up to 42 trails open!
[whistling with raindrops falling on head :) ]
 

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I think we just all need one big group therapy session! This is getting depressing...

My 10 year old daughter' s first race practice is supposed to be tomorrow night, she hasn't been on skis yet this season (last year we were already out once or twice), and she's all bummed this morning wondering if they'll be snow tomorrow night. I said maybe next Thursday night. Plus, we're getting worried about our 2 days at Sugarbush coming up the last week of the month...
 

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I just put the ski's away and got out the bar-b-que. When's baseball season start. Who do you all have in the NBA finals- I say the clippers finish off their surprise run with a win over the shaq less heat.

No really everybody get a grip. I hate this weather too but relax. Every winter has warm and rainy periods. Some feature less, some feature more. There is no way to really tell what is coming. I have seen models with a xmas day huge snowstorm. I have seen models with a ridge runner low pressure that drops 20+ from Kmart to whiteface. I've seen models that make 12/25 to 1/15 in the northeast a mirror image of hudson bay canada and others that make it late march.
Relax- we'll some natural snow and nighttime/early am/ later afternoon snow making temps for northern area's starting middle of next week.
By may we'll all just remember the good skiing anyway.
 

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I think we just all need one big group therapy session! This is getting depressing...

Hunter on Friday should do the trick. I can't speak for anybody else but I am excited. The weather is the weather. The point I am trying to make is there is snow on the ground and the lifts are running in just about every skiable regin. It might not be the best and your home mountain might not be open yet (mine is not) but get out and enjoy what is available. It could be worse. At least it is not June.
 

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Ok, I will agree we are in some sort of trend. Hopefully we will not jump into the snowless usual cold month of January. We tend to get some decent snow in December, Thaw and rain during xmas week and then iced up for January. Just stinks that this year we don't have the December snow for the base.

I have 3 days in so far. Usually hit 10 by xmas, not this year. Don't plan on going back up until New Years. Baby coming in January so that month will be hectic then back to skiing in February. So much for buying a seasons pass to the "Most Snow in the East", Move up. I had to complain for at least a minute.
 

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Always look on the bright side of life.
[whistling]
Always look on the light side of life.
[whistling]
If life seems jolly rotten, There's something you've forgotten, And that's to laugh and smile and dance and sing. When you're feeling in the dumps, Don't be silly chumps. Just purse your lips and whistle. That's the thing. And...
Always look on the bright side of life.
[whistling]
Always look on the right side of life,
[whistling]
For life is quite absurd And death's the final word. You must always face the curtain with a bow. Forget about your sin. Give the audience a grin. Enjoy it. It's your last chance, anyhow. So,...
Always look on the bright side of death,
[whistling]
Just before you draw your terminal breath.
[whistling]
Life's a piece of shit, When you look at it. Life's a laugh and death's a joke. It's true. You'll see it's all a show. Keep 'em laughing as you go. Just remember that the last laugh is on you. And...
Always look on the bright side of life.
[whistling]
Always look on the right side of life.
[whistling]
Always look on the bright side of life! [whistling] Always look on the bright side of life!
[whistling]
Always look on the bright side of life!
[whistling]
Always look on the bright side of life!
[whistling]
Always look on the bright side of life!
[whistling]
Always look on the bright side of life!
[whistling]
Always look on the bright side of life!
[whistling]
Always look on the bright side of life!
[whistling]
Killington up to 42 trails open!
[whistling with raindrops falling on head ]

I just sang the whole thing and................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................. I still dont feel that wonderful...maybe i should take time and look at the bright side of life
 

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I just sang the whole thing and................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................. I still dont feel that wonderful...maybe i should take time and look at the bright side of life


Might be better if you do it on the snow. Although people may look at you kind of strange, but that only makes it better! ;)
 

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I was just reading the latest forecast discussion for my area (Hartford) and the weather guessers say a pattern change is happening for early next week and we will have cold weather for at least the period of the 18-20th and this MAY signal the beginings of a more permanent pattern change:

Right now it is pouring rain here in bloomfield:smash: :uzi: :flame:

will you stop it with the flames??? You're jest contributing to global warming and shortening my ski seas:wink:n
 

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I just dont understand all the doom and gloom.

Its still early december, the forecast below for killington doesnt look that negative. A brief rain event today and friday but certainly not a deluge. It also shows marginal snowmaking temps each of the next few nights with excellent snowmaking temps at the start of next week. Granted this is only one place but I would imagine this forecast is similar across most of the major northern new england resorts.

http://www.erh.noaa.gov/forecast/Ma...lat=43.182917&smap=1&mp=0&map.x=132&map.y=101
 

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I just dont understand all the doom and gloom.

Dude, we are in New Engand. People find any possible way to complain about the weather. The only way people won't complain is if every ski area gets 3 ft. a snow a week. Actually, then everyone would be pissed that they can't get to the mountain.
 

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Dude, we are in New Engand. People find any possible way to complain about the weather. The only way people won't complain is if every ski area gets 3 ft. a snow a week. Actually, then everyone would be pissed that they can't get to the mountain.

And most of the ones that do get to the mountain would complain that "nothing's groomed". And if it is groomed, the rest of us would be complaining that it is groomed.
 

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I just dont understand all the doom and gloom.
i am going to make the following comments without "feeling" one way or the other about them, it is just the facts, just the way the weather is, no use complaining but it is hard to ignore the possibilities or lack there of for this season in some respects.

there is a reason for doom and gloom, and the graph that from_the_nek posted from skivtl's historical records of mansfield shows one big aspect. november is what ever, but december is important for setting up some natural base depth on natural snow trails. once you get behind, it is very statistically difficult for mother nature to catch us back up. i am growing slightly concerned for how well the natural snow trails will hold up this season. we'll see how it plays out, but going into january with absolutely zero base on most natural snow trails is going to be a severe blow for the season overall.

man made snow trails will not take a hit as hard. if you primarily ski groomers, relax. the snow makers are behind but they can catch up pretty quickly once the temps finally plunge. maybe you loose a few weeks of typical "half the ski area open" type skiing, but you'll get all your man made snow trails open within a month.

i ain't saying to go jump ship, two very large dumps and we are back in business though still building base and still not able to attack most natural snow trails until a base firms up. i am saying that the quantity of natural snow days this season will probably be below average. hopefully the quality of the big dumps makes up for lack of base going into the new year. it certainly doesn't bode well for smaller areas and your "skers mountains", especially if they can not open for holiday skiers.
 
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