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I am very disappointed in the new K Tickets pricing. In the past I felt they were a good deal for someone like myself who can only get to Killington 4 to 8 weekends each winter. In the past I would buy 7 K tickets and get one free. That allowed me to ski either 4 weekends Sat + Sun, or 8 Saturdays on K tickets and then buy 8 Sunday tix at Pico.

I cant justify a season pass at $1,369 that offers no reciprocity for other Powder resorts, or the Beast Pass at $1.929 with a limited Ikon base add on.

At $109, that doesn't make sense when I can buy most mid week tickets at $119 on the website.

Plus if I buy 7 tickets x $109 = $763 that's more than an Epic pass for $689 that is unlimited at most of its VT + NH resorts plus I can use it out west in CO, UT, CA, etc.

While I feel that Killington is much better and less crowded than Stowe, Okemo and Mt. Snow, its not better value wise.

I guess I will be skiing at Pico only this winter, thought for some reason they don't have ticket prices posted yet on the Pico website.

better products/experiences (k and sugarbush over stowe and okemo, stratton over mount snow) should command a higher price tag. ikon/killington seem to do this intentionally to position themselves as upmarket from epic/vail. i am glad they do.
 

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I'm someone who likes to mountain hop and explore different places. It sucks that the industry is increasingly opposed to people like me. If it weren't for Indy Pass I don't know if I'd ski more than 5-8 days a year.

Interesting take - wouldn't these multi mountain pass products actually cater more to people who like to explore different places? (Unlike the "old days" where a season pass got you access at just that one mountain.)

I get the "cheap pass / crazy expensive day ticket" model sucks for planning more last minute and I'm not particularly a fan of these mega passes, but inability to explore different places is never a complaint I've heard about them.
 

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I am very disappointed in the new K Tickets pricing. In the past I felt they were a good deal for someone like myself who can only get to Killington 4 to 8 weekends each winter. In the past I would buy 7 K tickets and get one free. That allowed me to ski either 4 weekends Sat + Sun, or 8 Saturdays on K tickets and then buy 8 Sunday tix at Pico.

I cant justify a season pass at $1,369 that offers no reciprocity for other Powder resorts, or the Beast Pass at $1.929 with a limited Ikon base add on.

At $109, that doesn't make sense when I can buy most mid week tickets at $119 on the website.

Plus if I buy 7 tickets x $109 = $763 that's more than an Epic pass for $689 that is unlimited at most of its VT + NH resorts plus I can use it out west in CO, UT, CA, etc.

While I feel that Killington is much better and less crowded than Stowe, Okemo and Mt. Snow, its not better value wise.

I guess I will be skiing at Pico only this winter, thought for some reason they don't have ticket prices posted yet on the Pico website.
If you are skiing Killington / Pico 8 full weekends each winter that would more than cover the early season purchase of a Killington pass.

I understand the frustration of no reciprocity at other Powdr resorts - that has been one of my biggest complaints about the Killington pass for several years now.

At this point, if you plan to ski only Pico, it is probably worth buying a Pico pass at $559. They don't currently have day ticket prices listed, but "P-Tickets" are on sale at $69 / each.
 

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I think people focus in on specific costs and don't look at the big picture. My IKON pass was what, $1,049 this year as a returning Sugarbush pass holder. So for that price I will ski probably 45 days as Sugarbush. Also I will ski 5 to 7 days at Killington, probably 5 days at Sunday River, a few days at the Loaf, a long weekend in the Utah and 7 days in Kitzbuhel. If you were to add up all that in day tickets from 10 years ago before all this day ticket mess started, it would still be a huge value. People spend so much time racing around to find the cheapest option, add in the driving, finding lodging, eating out, battleing weather to do what, save a buck or two?

They also miss out on being a part of the community at a hill like Sugarbush or where ever you land. That is the best part of skiing. The people and the apre and the adventures. being a part of something special. No I would not change what I did for any amount of money.
 

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I think people focus in on specific costs and don't look at the big picture. My IKON pass was what, $1,049 this year as a returning Sugarbush pass holder. So for that price I will ski probably 45 days as Sugarbush. Also I will ski 5 to 7 days at Killington, probably 5 days at Sunday River, a few days at the Loaf, a long weekend in the Utah and 7 days in Kitzbuhel. If you were to add up all that in day tickets from 10 years ago before all this day ticket mess started, it would still be a huge value. People spend so much time racing around to find the cheapest option, add in the driving, finding lodging, eating out, battleing weather to do what, save a buck or two?

They also miss out on being a part of the community at a hill like Sugarbush or where ever you land. That is the best part of skiing. The people and the apre and the adventures. being a part of something special. No I would not change what I did for any amount of money.

While I do like skiing with others sometimes, to me it isn’t about that it is all about the skiing. Skiing with others can be a pain. Waiting for others to me is the worst. Do I wait for them to get there or do I take a few runs and then miss them? Did they take a wrong turn? Are they hurt and should I go find them? Or if I decide to turn into some woods that look great we I lose them? I didn’t pay money to wait for others nor did they.
I don’t need a community although a few beers with others can be a good time now and then but not always.
Guess I am a loner at heart.
 

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I never ski alone in the woods. That is jsut me as I have been hurt in the woods. But I can understand not wanting to wait for people. Basically I only ski with small groups and with people of similar or better experience. No more thal 3 or 4.

The community part is more than who you ski with. There are so many experiences up at Sugarbush over the years that have been memorable. Parties, golf, mountain biking, dinners, Apre ski drinks and stories, trail maintanence, concerts, hiking, everything. I have done so much fun shit up there with people and the relationships that we have developed have pretty much chaged my life.
 

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i agree with both of you lol.

its very nice to be a part of a community.

i also generally just want to ski by myself and be sort of antisocial.

the complaint about ikon stifling someone's variety option is kinda crazy to me. last season i skied at 19 unique ski areas. almost all were on ikon (a handful were indy - jay, cannon, magic, powmow).

just in the east, ikon gives me sugarbush, stratton, killington, windham, loon, sunday river, sugarloaf, and tremblant. at a ridiculously affordable price point (about $20 a day for me, but ski half as much and you're still looking at amazing value).

very little sympathy for people lamenting the decline of cheap single day ticket options. which also still exist via skiVT, ski and ride card, club days, blah blah
 

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I’ve always skied a few runs with the better half to start, split up and meet for lunch, same after lunch and then meet at the lodge for a cocktail.

Now I’ve been skiing mostly alone and during the week. Got her out for several days last year, the friday/sat and sat/sun/mon routines. Probably the same this season.
 

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My primary ski partner is my wife. I am lucky becasue she can follow me anywhere and loves skiing the woods. She is realy durable. lol. Last year she actually skied more days than me because she could work from the condo.
 

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I think people focus in on specific costs and don't look at the big picture. My IKON pass was what, $1,049 this year as a returning Sugarbush pass holder. So for that price I will ski probably 45 days as Sugarbush. Also I will ski 5 to 7 days at Killington, probably 5 days at Sunday River, a few days at the Loaf, a long weekend in the Utah and 7 days in Kitzbuhel. If you were to add up all that in day tickets from 10 years ago before all this day ticket mess started, it would still be a huge value. People spend so much time racing around to find the cheapest option, add in the driving, finding lodging, eating out, battleing weather to do what, save a buck or two?

They also miss out on being a part of the community at a hill like Sugarbush or where ever you land. That is the best part of skiing. The people and the apre and the adventures. being a part of something special. No I would not change what I did for any amount of money.

For someone that skis as many days as you describe, a pass is a no-brainer. Last year my family and I put 30+ days on our Killington passes so it is an easy decision.

I can however see that the current model becomes very expensive for the occasional skier.

You are lucky that your "home" mountain is unlimited on a multi resort pass. Not the case for the Killington skier who gets kind of screwed in the sense that Sugarbush and Stratton season pass holders get access at our mountain, but we get none at theirs.
 

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While I do like skiing with others sometimes, to me it isn’t about that it is all about the skiing. Skiing with others can be a pain. Waiting for others to me is the worst. Do I wait for them to get there or do I take a few runs and then miss them? Did they take a wrong turn? Are they hurt and should I go find them? Or if I decide to turn into some woods that look great we I lose them? I didn’t pay money to wait for others nor did they.
I don’t need a community although a few beers with others can be a good time now and then but not always.
Guess I am a loner at heart.
Maybe you are picking the wrong people to ski with? When I ski with others, I'm usually picking ski partners that I know I won't have to spend too much time waiting on.
 

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For someone that skis as many days as you describe, a pass is a no-brainer. Last year my family and I put 30+ days on our Killington passes so it is an easy decision.

I can however see that the current model becomes very expensive for the occasional skier.

You are lucky that your "home" mountain is unlimited on a multi resort pass. Not the case for the Killington skier who gets kind of screwed in the sense that Sugarbush and Stratton season pass holders get access at our mountain, but we get none at theirs.
OK then change mountains. Simple enough. Then you will have all the benefits.
 

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OK then change mountains. Simple enough. Then you will have all the benefits.
I could - but that would involve a lot of inertia - selling the condo, buying a new one, kind of moving on from the relationships we have made over the years. So simple in some ways, not so simple in others.
 

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No I get the relationship thing. I moved to sugarbush from Sunday River years ago. Tough call. History dictates that in the future the model will change. I guess people will just have to wait it out.
 

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No I get the relationship thing. I moved to sugarbush from Sunday River years ago. Tough call. History dictates that in the future the model will change. I guess people will just have to wait it out.

I mean, its also not really enough of an annoyance to make such a big move, but I know the lack of reciprocity on the Killington pass is a common annoyance to many Killington regulars.

And you are right - it is likely the model will eventually change
 

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Going to end up with four passes this year: ragged, gunstock midweek, boyne midweek, killington spring. Would ditch the K spring and Boyne midweek if killington offered limited reciprocity at sister mountains and spring benefit similar to boyne. Tried to shoehorn K passes for myself and kids last spring but just could not get the numbers to work.

Comparing current pass prices, the boyne pass is clearly a better value for anyone located east of the Connecticut. Killington does win May and natural snowfall most years but they opened the same day last year and if I recollect SR continually had more early season terrain open.

Killington - $1700 with pico free
Sunday River - $1450 with loon and sugarloaf included, plus three days each at big sky, brighton, pleasant and bunch of other places. Then 50% off additional boyne and mountain collective days.
 
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Going to end up with four passes this year: ragged, gunstock midweek, boyne midweek, killington spring. Would ditch the K spring and Boyne midweek if killington offered limited reciprocity at sister mountains and spring benefit similar to boyne. Tried to shoehorn K passes for myself and kids last spring but just could not get the numbers to work.

Comparing current pass prices, the boyne pass is clearly a better value for anyone located east of the Connecticut. Killington does win May and natural snowfall most years but they opened the same day last year and if I recollect SR continually had more early season terrain open.

Killington - $1700 with pico free
Sunday River - $1450 with loon and sugarloaf included, plus three days each at big sky, brighton, pleasant and bunch of other places. Then 50% off additional boyne and mountain collective days.
$1700 is the late season purchase price for Killington.

If you bought by June 22, it would have been $1199, if you buy before Oct 19th, it is $1,369.

Sunday river does not appear to show the early / late season purchase price - only todays price of $1,449 (for the Gold Pass) - i don't know if it was cheaper earlier or goes up in price later.
 

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$1700 is the late season purchase price for Killington.

If you bought by June 22, it would have been $1199, if you buy before Oct 19th, it is $1,369.

Sunday river does not appear to show the early / late season purchase price - only todays price of $1,449 (for the Gold Pass) - i don't know if it was cheaper earlier or goes up in price later.
Three seasonal price points at Boyne as well.
Expect the last jump the day after the upcoming holiday weekend.
 

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$1700 is the late season purchase price for Killington.

If you bought by June 22, it would have been $1199, if you buy before Oct 19th, it is $1,369.

Sunday river does not appear to show the early / late season purchase price - only todays price of $1,449 (for the Gold Pass) - i don't know if it was cheaper earlier or goes up in price later.
Believe flash sale price in march was $1199 for SR but not certain.

Appears I paid $1427 for two nitro passes and one bronze pass in march, would cost $1687 today. Amounts to a 15% early buy discount.

Edit - think about this, the sunday river pass holder gets 50% off at powdr owned snowbird. The killington pass holder gets no discount.
 
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1. I have no idea why someone so vested in a mountain they own a condo there would care about season pass prices. Even if it's a family of 4 the few hundred dollars increase in prices is still a fraction of the total cost.

2. $69 pico tickets is a steal.
 
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