Lifter plates

[Hawkshot99]

I have some Rossi Axial Scratch bindings coming for my skiis. The difference between these and regular Axial's is that they have no lifter plate under the binging. What does the plate do?

I will be putting them on a pair of Public Enemy's that are used as a all mountain ski mostly, with some park. I dont do all the spins and stuff just jumping, but mainly all mountain. I can get some lifter plates for them if they would make a big difference, but I am just wondering what it makes.



(From what I believe is that by having the extra leverage it makes the ski easier to get turned over on its edge. That would seem good.)

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

(From what I believe is that by having the extra leverage it makes the ski easier to get turned over on its edge. That would seem good.)

Bingo. I have 4 MM lifters on my boots too. I have to say the boot lifters don't seem to make much if any difference.

 

[Hawkshot99]

Bingo. I have 4 MM lifters on my boots too. I have to say the boot lifters don't seem to make much if any difference.

OK, well why do freestyle bindings (or at least Rossi) not have lifters? How can they be bad for that?

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

OK, well why do freestyle bindings (or at least Rossi) not have lifters? How can they be bad for that?

Park skis and all fat skis are usually mounted flat. The purpose of a lifter is to get you edge to edge quicker. If you’re strictly looking for park and pow performance this is not an issue.

If you where to put a lifter under your binder on a fat ski it would take away a lot of the feeling of the snow under you sensation and make it feel kinda dead.

 

[kbroderick]

Park skis and all fat skis are usually mounted flat. The purpose of a lifter is to get you edge to edge quicker. If you’re strictly looking for park and pow performance this is not an issue.

If you where to put a lifter under your binder on a fat ski it would take away a lot of the feeling of the snow under you sensation and make it feel kinda dead.

Actually, it takes longer to go edge to edge when you're further from the snow--your foot has to travel further for your ski to make the same amount of movement. The trade off is greater leverage and a decrease in the chances of boot-out.

(assuming a straight lifter and not some sort of plate where the skis' flex pattern will also be affected)

 

[riverc0il]

if you plan on doing park, the flat bindings wouldn't hurt. plates really help if you are tearing up the groomers and as KB mentioned, wanting greater leverage.

 

[Hawkshot99]

Ok thanks, I will keep them without lifters, as I have another ski that will be for the groomers and carving.

 

[JimG.]

Kbroderick nailed it.

Also, keep in mind that ski with plates are not great for skiing bumps either.