Looks like we finally have some hope

[Johnskiismore]

Thanks for confirming my suspicions. Doubtful even Cannon got an inch or maybe two at best. I just took the dog out and the sky was perfectly clear with the stars sparkling. This one is over for central NH and it seems it never even got started in NoNH. Ragged might have gotten 4-5" but I ain't pull full holiday rate for Ragged especially whereas that small snow total is not going to open up any glades. I may see if the up slope kicks in later this week and reschedule the requested day off later this week....

My ski patrol friend @ Cannon said they got two inches today.

 

[Johnskiismore]

Snowshoe WV is looking at ANOTHER 10 or so inches with the current storm. Roadtrip!

 

[riverc0il]

Ragged Glades at this point would require 8-10 of heavy snow at minimum; especially with their conservative approach to opening them. Back in early January I was shocked they didn't open for at least a couple of days with what I saw with a quick poach.

Given the snow pack we have here, I am surprised anything less than a foot of heavy/dense snow would open them without even having seen them first hand. We are (well, were) down to bare ground in many locations though our packed snow walking trails still had a few inches due to trees and compaction. I fear this storm will only help freshen already open trails. It started a little wet but finished quite fluffy as temps began to drop. Literally started perfect snowball snow and ended with snow that is impossible to make a snowball with. Any ways, we need a big one really bad to say the least and these SNE storms are just not doing it where it matters most. SNE pass holders may beg to differ if they went out and skied tonight but they won't be begging to differ when they head north to the mountains.

 

[deadheadskier]

Surprisingly not the case at Ragged. snowpack is a solid 6 to 8 in the woods all over the mountain. They must have dodged the major bullet with the snow eating rain. nothing close to bare ground anywhere on that mountain right now.

 

[riverc0il]

Surprisingly not the case at Ragged. snowpack is a solid 6 to 8 in the woods all over the mountain. They must have dodged the major bullet with the snow eating rain. nothing close to bare ground anywhere on that mountain right now.

Was not expecting there to be any bare ground given they are at elevation. But signs of bare ground here would indicate less than a foot base up on the mountain in the woods suggesting at least another foot of dense needed minimum to cover up the schwack.

 

[Johnskiismore]

Heading home from Lincoln tonight, it was funny to see cars with snow snow packed on their grates..... but no new snow at their arrival point!

 

[riverc0il]

Heading home from Lincoln tonight, it was funny to see cars with snow snow packed on their grates..... but no new snow at their arrival point!

If you find that funny, you have a very twisted sense of humor!!! :-x :-(

 

[deadheadskier]

Was not expecting there to be any bare ground given they are at elevation. But signs of bare ground here would indicate less than a foot base up on the mountain in the woods suggesting at least another foot of dense needed minimum to cover up the schwack.

no doubt, less than a foot base up there. but a solid 6-8 inch of 'rain compacted slab' can cover up quite nicely with 8 inches of wet snow. I think that would at least open up the Tree Hugger area that was open a month ago.

 

[Johnskiismore]

If you find that funny, you have a very twisted sense of humor!!! :-x :-(

Funny not in the ha-ha way, funny in the this is really bad way. I have another eight shifts in a row with people primarily vacationing at Loon. I am expecting to hear the question of where's the snow at least 5K times. Booooooo

 

[deadheadskier]

I am expecting to hear the question of where's the snow

Snow's in Stowe. If I could find a way to make life work professionally, I'd be back there in heart beat. Well, maybe Burlington; wife would prefer that.

ce la vie

 

[billski]

No place is more deserving of paying full price other than magic. Go for it!

 

[KingM]

Josh Fox posted an update on the Single Chair Blog last night at about 10:30 saying that well, we missed the first part, but we still should have a foot by Friday morning. Not a flake on the ground this morning. To be fair, he's not the only one who missed this one, but still, there comes a time when it's best to admit defeat and retreat from the field of battle.

In seven winters, I've never seen a forecast bust so badly as this one. 24 hours out everyone was saying a foot and we received literally nothing.

 

[riverc0il]

No place is more deserving of paying full price other than magic. Go for it!

I completely agree. But... My heart says yes but my wallet says no. Having prepaid for vouchers this season, I really need to stick to the plan as much as possible to keep finances in line.

 

[WinnChill]

24 hours out everyone was saying a foot and we received literally nothing.

I hope you're not lumping us in with that. Granted, we busted too but not as bad....if there are degrees of bust-age. ;-)

 

[Glenn]

Euler,
Sweet! Thanks for the update! Sounds like SoVT did OK with this storm...finally!

Jeff,
LOL! We'll have to get some pics of the quality control process Saturday evening.

Beleive it or not, we got 9-10" of snow here in CT. It was a bit of a surprise. My wife wanted to go out when I got home from work. She went into a few stores...I did doughnuts in the snow covered parking lots. Happiness is 4wd and an unlocked transfercase that allows for some nice slippage. Wheee!

 

[billski]

Josh Fox posted an update on the Single Chair Blog last night at about 10:30 saying that well, we missed the first part, but we still should have a foot by Friday morning. Not a flake on the ground this morning. To be fair, he's not the only one who missed this one, but still, there comes a time when it's best to admit defeat and retreat from the field of battle.

In seven winters, I've never seen a forecast bust so badly as this one. 24 hours out everyone was saying a foot and we received literally nothing.

You know, this is going to come around full circle. At this point, nobody is going to trust the weather guesser-people. Then we'll get a huge dump, everyone will ignore a legitimate forecast and everyone will be caught with their pants down. The flatlanders will be in 8 hour gridlock and the powder snobs won't be able to get to it. Then we'll all panic and say "never again." Repeat.

 

[Mildcat]

From Sunday River's snow report.

Sometimes Mother Nature can be a cruel mistress, this is one of those times. Yesterday's snowstorm seemed to omit Sunday River from its intended targets and we missed out. We aren't angry at Mother Nature, just disappointed and that can be worse.

They might not be angry at Mother Nature but I'm frikken pissed! :angry:

 

[billski]

I completely agree. But... My heart says yes but my wallet says no. Having prepaid for vouchers this season, I really need to stick to the plan as much as possible to keep finances in line.

I know, I know exactly what you are saying. I'm being a little philosophical at this point. I'm gonna keep drumming the Magic drum this week.

 

[WinnChill]

You know, this is going to come around full circle. At this point, nobody is going to trust the weather guesser-people. Then we'll get a huge dump, everyone will ignore a legitimate forecast and everyone will be caught with their pants down. The flatlanders will be in 8 hour gridlock and the powder snobs won't be able to get to it. Then we'll all panic and say "never again." Repeat.

I'd like to say we do a little more than "guess". Please look at the Boston NWS discussion prior to the storm and tell me if this is simply guesswork. We don't spend hours looking at data just to throw out a guess. I tend to bristle at comments like this--after years of people mocking your profession, you would to.

But your premise about complacency is true Bill...whether it's for snow/ice storms, hurricanes, or tornadoes. Even more so, I find that people misstate, exagerate, or completely falsify forecasts. I see it and hear it just about every day...people completly making up predicted snowfall, listening to forecasts for different regions, and worse yet, when we actually get the predicted snowfall but people STILL say we got it wrong for some reason. During a recent storm, someone said the timing was off...he mentioned a late morning start--I showed him observations with snow starting at 10am--how is that off?
We'll never win.

But you know, bash it all you want--you know you'll be looking to the forecasters for the next storm.

 

[hammer]

The timing on this storm must have been a little off...I can't imagine school superintendents in southern NH calling off school unless they had reason to believe that the snow was going to arrive during the school day.

That said, methinks people are getting a bit too demanding about snow forecasts...if the predictions are 2" or 2 hours off then they are sooo bad. :roll: