New Reality TV show based on Skiing!!!

[catskills]

Watched about 10 min of it......I don't want to see all these people getting hurt...Total buzz kill.

Interesting comment. You probably don't like ER or NCIS or House ?

For folks that have never tried skiing or riding, seeing all those injuries like the 50 year old with the ankle and young girl with wrist deformity, it could impact the number of people that want to try the sport. Folks could get the wrong impression that its all dangerous.

 

[fixedgrip16]

Required really Steeze? Just what we need more government like regulation. To each his own. I wear one but not religiously-- esp. when it's warm-- and growing up w/o wearing one teaches you not to rely upon one. Timing, skill, and smarts makes one avoid collisions. Helmets aren't going to prevent broken limbs. They're are a good thing but the only thing that should be required is free will to choose one or not.

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

Required really Steeze? Just what we need more government like regulation. To each his own. I wear one but not religiously-- esp. when it's warm-- and growing up w/o wearing one teaches you not to rely upon one. Timing, skill, and smarts makes one avoid collisions. Helmets aren't going to prevent broken limbs. They're are a good thing but the only thing that should be required is free will to choose one or not.

Well if somebody gets a bad head injury skiing couldn't they sue the ski area..this should probably be in another thread..but I'm surprised certain ski areas don't require helmets..sort of like bicycle or seatbelt laws. If insurance companies offered reduced rates to ski areas that required helmet use..I could see them required..not governement regulation..ski resort regulation..When it's warm I keep my vents open and remove the earmuff stuff so it's more like a bike helmet..oh well..laws are weird..in Pennsylvania you can ride a motorcycle with no helmet and we make lots and lots of tombstones for those bikers..

I mainly wear a helmet because I can be on the side of the trail buckling my boots tighter and some out of control 300 pound guy in frozen jeans and an Eagles jacket could plow me over and have me eating Jello and being a vegetable..that's why I wear a helmet..my Mom specifically said that if I became a vegetable..I would never get laid..lol

 

[gorgonzola]

Blue episodes start in 3 weeks and FYI alot of ski patrollers don't wear helmets..I think helmets should be required by all..

the best was last year on barneys me and my buddy mtbrudy (winterwarlock on pasr) were off to the side messing around with his helmet cam when this fat patroller sideslips through the bumps, no helmet, SMOKING A BUTT to see if were ok. now thats tru-tv - another blue mountain classic unfortunatley relegated to the editing room floor....

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

the best was last year on barneys me and my buddy mtbrudy (winterwarlock on pasr) were off to the side messing around with his helmet cam when this fat patroller sideslips through the bumps, no helmet, SMOKING A BUTT to see if were ok. now thats tru-tv - another blue mountain classic unfortunatley relegated to the editing room floor....

Some of the patrollers at Blue are low intermediates at best..I don't know how they passed the test..maybe they brought alot of Corona lights to the weekly Thursday night patroller circle jerks..lol

 

[tjf67]

Required really Steeze? Just what we need more government like regulation. To each his own. I wear one but not religiously-- esp. when it's warm-- and growing up w/o wearing one teaches you not to rely upon one. Timing, skill, and smarts makes one avoid collisions. Helmets aren't going to prevent broken limbs. They're are a good thing but the only thing that should be required is free will to choose one or not.

If they are employees why not required? I broke a helmet mountain biking the other day. If the helmet were not on I would have had at a minimum a huge gash in my head more likely brain damage. There is no downside so why not require them.

 

[fixedgrip16]

Well if somebody gets a bad head injury skiing couldn't they sue the ski area..this should probably be in another thread..but I'm surprised certain ski areas don't require helmets..sort of like bicycle or seatbelt laws. If insurance companies offered reduced rates to ski areas that required helmet use..I could see them required..not governement regulation..ski resort regulation..When it's warm I keep my vents open and remove the earmuff stuff so it's more like a bike helmet..oh well..laws are weird..in Pennsylvania you can ride a motorcycle with no helmet and we make lots and lots of tombstones for those bikers..

The only regulation I believe in is for each individual to use their own free will as they want. Obviously there's more risk but life itself is risky. Good judgement goes a long way in determining an injury not relying on a helmet as a safety cushion. Regulation or safety nets in any kind are all the same. . . Having someone other than yourself deciding your will for you. How would such a law be enforced? Don't sell tickets unless you prove you own one? Who's to say you'll always wear it what then? Stop the liftline and interrogate why someone's not wearing one and why they're standing in line w/o it? We've already got too many socialist type laws on the books as it is. As to lawsuits, it's unfortunate that some would sustain a head injury and sue a resort realizing there's inherant risk in the sport and it's not the mountain's fault for existing. A little personal responsibility I guess is too much to ask for these days. If it's someone else's fault sue them not the mountain. It was just standing there.

 

[BushMogulMaster]

Well if somebody gets a bad head injury skiing couldn't they sue the ski area..

[hijack]

Hehehehe... good luck with that! For the most part, ski areas take great care in making sure that the inherent risks of the sport are clearly posted. They're often on lift tickets (which are NOT contracts in most places), they're posted at the base of lifts, they're in the trail map booklet, etc. Therefore, while you might be able to initiate litigation, chances of winning the case or getting a decent settlement are slim if the ski area has a good risk management team.

Everyone essentially agrees that they could die at the hill, because skiing is an inherently dangerous sport. To think otherwise is naive. Therefore, in the court of law, the judge is going to look at you and say, "Well... you knew the risks, and you skied without a helment anyway. Sorry." Now if it makes it to the jury, you might get sympathy from the jury if there was brain damage or other permanent trauma. But still, chances of a verdict in your favor are slim.

All you're causing them to do is waste money on litigation that could be spent on a new lift, a new cat, or more snowmaking, etc. Suing a ski area in any case other than negligence is a big time consumer that will produce little if any results.

[/hijack]

 

[BushMogulMaster]

Oh, and BTW... most ski helmets are only effective at 14mph or slower.

GSS... how often are you skiing 14mph or slower?

 

[fixedgrip16]

[hijack]

Hehehehe... good luck with that! For the most part, ski areas take great care in making sure that the inherent risks of the sport are clearly posted. They're often on lift tickets (which are NOT contracts in most places), they're posted at the base of lifts, they're in the trail map booklet, etc. .

All you're causing them to do is waste money on litigation that could be spent on a new lift, a new cat, or more snowmaking, etc. Suing a ski area in any case other than negligence is a big time consumer that will produce little if any results.

[/hijack]

Very true BMM but what your saying doesn't stop them from trying. It's always about me me me rather than looking at the incident objectively and saying "You know something I fucked up and should take resposibility. I got myself into this jam, I'll figure a way out." Call it brutal honesty but we need more of it.

 

[BushMogulMaster]

Agreed.

 

[RootDKJ]

Well if somebody gets a bad head injury skiing couldn't they sue the ski area..this should probably be in another thread..but I'm surprised certain ski areas don't require helmets..sort of like bicycle or seatbelt laws. If insurance companies offered reduced rates to ski areas that required helmet use..I could see them required..not governement regulation..ski resort regulation..When it's warm I keep my vents open and remove the earmuff stuff so it's more like a bike helmet..oh well..laws are weird..in Pennsylvania you can ride a motorcycle with no helmet and we make lots and lots of tombstones for those bikers..

I mainly wear a helmet because I can be on the side of the trail buckling my boots tighter and some out of control 300 pound guy in frozen jeans and an Eagles jacket could plow me over and have me eating Jello and being a vegetable..that's why I wear a helmet..my Mom specifically said that if I became a vegetable..I would never get laid..lol

+1

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

Oh, and BTW... most ski helmets are only effective at 14mph or slower.

GSS... how often are you skiing 14mph or slower?

About as often as Greg skis groomers..lol

 

[BushMogulMaster]

About as often as Greg skis groomers..lol

My point exactly. So while a helmet may prevent a laceration or abrasion, it's not going to keep you from getting a concussion or a serious TBI (of course, what TBI isn't serious?) if you take a hard fall or hit a lift tower head first.

 

[marcski]

My point exactly. So while a helmet may prevent a laceration or abrasion, it's not going to keep you from getting a concussion or a serious TBI (of course, what TBI isn't serious?) if you take a hard fall or hit a lift tower head first.

Um...I'm not so sure you can generalize like that:

There is a short article in I think Skiing's October issue about one of the editors, who is an expert skier, and somehow lost it and struck a tree head-on, while skiing some glades. His article praises his helmet and wearing one and according to him, he wouldn't be alive without it. As it is, he suffered I think a broken vertebrae or something. I can look for the article later when I get home.

 

[BushMogulMaster]

Um...I'm not so sure you can generalize like that:

There is a short article in I think Skiing's October issue about one of the editors, who is an expert skier, and somehow lost it and struck a tree head-on, while skiing some glades. His article praises his helmet and wearing one and according to him, he wouldn't be alive without it. As it is, he suffered I think a broken vertebrae or something. I can look for the article later when I get home.

I'm not dissing helmets. I wear one. But in the case you describe, I would bet he wasn't skiing much over 14mph, as explained above.

 

[fixedgrip16]

Me neither. I wear one but don't want to be ordered to do so or ordered to do anything else for that matter especially having a good time at a ski area. We have plenty of laws already for felonies and crimes against society. Why criminalize skiers and riders? That's a bunch of BS. I can see kicking someone off the mountain for crashing into someone completly out of control but for wearing a hat over a helmet? Free country, free choice. Or should we all encourage our society to become even more litigious?

 

[mattchuck2]

I can't believe the way that threads find their way back to arguments that we've had thousands of times before. If you're interested in my (somewhat controversial) opinion on helmets Click Here. If not, I'll try to steer the thread back to its original topic.

Who's watching next week? I probably will. I never get to see skiing on TV, so anytime I do, whether it's olympic moguls, freeskiing competitions, or celebrity ski challenges, I watch.

 

[RootDKJ]

I will. Buzz kill aside it's good to see white on the tv and I've seen all the gore before in person

 

[Phillycore]

it had entertainment value...
Noone on here really thought it was going to be aimed at the skiing / boarding core group anyway did they??
They design these shows for the gen. pop. and I think it came across pretty good for their intent.
Cheesy of course.... but what did you expect from a reality show anyway...
They're all cheesy... we're Americans.. we love cheese..
I got it setup on DVR if for nothing else...it's something to watch that's skiing related...